does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

[GreyGeek]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

The ATI Radeon X1200 graphic chip in that "Xlpora" is FOUR years old and ATI has already moved it to their "legacy archive", meaning that their latest driver, Catalyst 10.2, will not support it. IF you get the legacy driver and attempt to install it you will receive a msg saying it does not support the newer kernel. So, users have to default to a 2.6.25 or earlier kernel, and accept all of its limitations, or run the radeon driver and accept its limitations, which usually means inadequate or no acceleration or 3D support.

If the user is not interested in playing on SecondLife, or using Stellarium or Google Earth, or playing TuxRacer, then it will probably be an ok machine. The ad says it is "ideal for interacting online", which it probably is. IF emailing, facebook, browsing and playing videos is your thing this is probably an inexpensive way to get into the game.

I am suspicious that the "Xlpora" is NOT a new computer but is "reconditioned", hence the lowball price and the absence of a pre-installed OS. They will be glad to install Win7 home or Pro for an additional $80 or 110 more, but that would turn that underpowered machine into a boat anchor.

[kapil]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

@Liquidator: thanks for the link.
getting a laptop from uk or usa wont be a problem.. since some of my friends are going to fly from both these countries back to india.

@yuri: i was really surprised to see few manufacturer who give free DOS laptops in India, don't give even a single free DOS laptops in US. (asus would be good example here) all come with preinstalled windows 7/vista.. even xp for that matter. and ppl buy that.. how would manufacturer get to know it was not windows which caused the laptop to sell but lack of options.

not a single manufacturer has guts to give free DOS as option in all categories. real shame.

bTw i have to finalise 2 laptops and a netbook (ordered as per preference):
http://in.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=Zfkff8kvHmCtwfIK ,
http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/n...r_t540906in8~~

and http://in.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ls15lhnDPup9y6Uh

eee pc is sooo good. i wish it had faster processor and 13.3' screen instead of 12.1'
dell gives better deal than asus 52N..but have many reports saying dell laptops get faultyafter a years time.. so asus 52..
thanks all for ur inputs.

[ardvark71]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

The ATI Radeon X1200 graphic chip in that "Xlpora" is FOUR years old and ATI has already moved it to their "legacy archive", meaning that their latest driver, Catalyst 10.2, will not support it. IF you get the legacy driver and attempt to install it you will receive a msg saying it does not support the newer kernel. So, users have to default to a 2.6.25 or earlier kernel, and accept all of its limitations, or run the radeon driver and accept its limitations, which usually means inadequate or no acceleration or 3D support.

Hi GreyGeek...

So the Catalyst 9.3 drivers for the X1300 won't work in Kubuntu 10.04? If so, what version of Kubuntu would work with it? Hardy?

@Yuri sss: Thank you for your post, although Graygeek's post is a little disconcerting. I've never had this problem so far with Nvidia's legacy drivers.

Regards...

[GreyGeek]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

@Liquidator: thanks for the link.
getting a laptop from uk or usa wont be a problem.. since some of my friends are going to fly from both these countries back to india.

@yuri: i was really surprised to see few manufacturer who give free DOS laptops in India, don't give even a single free DOS laptops in US. (asus would be good example here) all come with preinstalled windows 7/vista.. even xp for that matter. and ppl buy that.. how would manufacturer get to know it was not windows which caused the laptop to sell but lack of options.

not a single manufacturer has guts to give free DOS as option in all categories. real shame.

bTw i have to finalise 2 laptops and a netbook (ordered as per preference):
http://in.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=Zfkff8kvHmCtwfIK ,
http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/n...r_t540906in8~~

and http://in.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ls15lhnDPup9y6Uh

eee pc is sooo good. i wish it had faster processor and 13.3' screen instead of 12.1'
dell gives better deal than asus 52N..but have many reports saying dell laptops get faultyafter a years time.. so asus 52..
thanks all for ur inputs.

Concerning the wifi connection in the Inspiron 15r you may find this URL informative:
http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/a...ntu-10-04.html

[ardvark71]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

[GreyGeek]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

The ATI Radeon X1200 graphic chip in that "Xlpora" is FOUR years old and ATI has already moved it to their "legacy archive", meaning that their latest driver, Catalyst 10.2, will not support it. IF you get the legacy driver and attempt to install it you will receive a msg saying it does not support the newer kernel. So, users have to default to a 2.6.25 or earlier kernel, and accept all of its limitations, or run the radeon driver and accept its limitations, which usually means inadequate or no acceleration or 3D support.

Hi GreyGeek...

So the Catalyst 9.3 drivers for the X1300 won't work in Kubuntu 10.04? If so, what version of Kubuntu would work with it? Hardy?
.....

You don't want to swim back upstream ... you'd lose so many capabilities and features of the newer desktops and kernels. You can try the most recent (archived) version of Catalyst that is supposed to support your video chip. What it will probably tell you is that it doesn't recognize the kernel and then it will quit. The latest Catalyst drive won't recognize the video chip because it is "legacy". What you are stuck with is using what Upstart detects and installs for you: radeon. It will get you at least a video display for using LibreOffice, FireFox, etc... Just about everything EXCEPT Active Desktop and those apps that require ACCELERATED or 3D graphics: stellarium, TuxRacer, GloogleEarth, YouTube, Flashplayer, and most non-accelerated graphics.. It "may" run those but they will be jerky and painfully slow.

I had this experience with my Intel Mobil Series 4 chipset running Mandriva PP 2009. For months I worked with the Xorg devs trying to get 3D for my chip. When they finally discovered the solution I was waiting for it to come downstream when I saw the Kubuntu Jaunty notice., I tried it. I had accelerated video immediately! In checking I found that Mandriva used i815 and Kubuntu used the i915 video driver. For ATI there is only the radeon.ko and radeonfb.ko modules. Radeonfb is definitely not accelerated.

[Snowhog]

Re: does intel graphics media accelator sufficiant for kubuntu 3d graphics?

I downloaded and tried out Kubuntu Maverick 10.10 32-bit in LiveCD mode on my Toshiba laptop. Everything worked, including the 3-D effects (including Blur). I'm not going to replace my Lucid, but I will likely install Maverick on my other prepared partitions and play with it for a while. But it looked good, even running from the LiveCD.