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    #46
    Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

    Originally posted by tomp01
    [It seems that some people need reminding that we are in the second decade of the 21st century!
    I'm just now working on getting a PII-266 128MB ram laptop to be useful. I know it is from 1998 (thanks for the reminder) but I have absolutely nothing against someone donating a newer one should they have any concerns about the present century and the people who live in it.

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      #47
      Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

      And you are running Kubuntu 10.4 on it?
      "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
      – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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        #48
        Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

        Originally posted by GreyGeek
        And you are running Kubuntu 10.4 on it?
        I tried Ubuntu server 10.04 for a start but it balked. The desktop version supposedly requires more than four times my HDD space. I've only got 1.9GB in my / partition. A minimal Debian with Fluxbox works, but now I have to figure out automounting and external mouse.

        I think Kubuntu is a great OS for a newer machine but I think it is too big for older/smaller kit. Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread. I guess I should start another thread.

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          #49
          Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

          Yar....

          Been using KDE since my days in SuSE and Mandrake. Always found the tools a little easier to manipulate (even though I do most of my admin stuff in terminal) and the GUI just a little less bloated and a little faster that GNOME. Have to admit that my experience with GNOME goes bad to last year. Even though I have been involved at some level with Linux since 98.

          I hope KDE isn't a dying option. Though I will have to admit that the standardization of Linux is a plus. Part of me feels like standardizing Linux to GNOME wouldn't be a good choice in the long run.

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            #50
            Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

            I doubt very much that KDE is going to die anytime soon or even not so soon

            KDE4.5 has made great strides toward stability and the next vesions promise to go even further in many respects.

            HP Pavilion dv6 core i7 (Main)
            4 GB Ram
            Kubuntu 18.10

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              #51
              Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

              Originally posted by Ole Juul
              ...
              I tried Ubuntu server 10.04 for a start but it balked. The desktop version supposedly requires more than four times my HDD space. I've only got 1.9GB in my / partition. A minimal Debian with Fluxbox works, but now I have to figure out automounting and external mouse.
              ...
              Give Puppy 5.1 a shot. It's based on Ubuntu but customized for underpowered machines.
              "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
              – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                #52
                Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                I have to say the one tool I grew to love that I miss from my RPM days is Mandrake's Partition Manager tool called "diskdrake". I wish it was ported over to kunbuntu

                Please Read Me

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                  #53
                  Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                  Originally posted by rvndmnmt
                  ....
                  I hope KDE isn't a dying option. Though I will have to admit that the standardization of Linux is a plus. Part of me feels like standardizing Linux to GNOME wouldn't be a good choice in the long run.
                  KDE isn't even close to dying. It isn't even sick. In fact, its user base is growing, as is Gnome's, as more and more Windows users learn about Linux and realize they don't have to put up with proprietary lockins and malware vulnerability.

                  Linux isn't standardizing on Gnome or KDE, and neither of those desktops holds a monopoly position in Linux. There are over a dozen different desktop environments. While Gnome and KDE are setting on the Lion's share of desktops those others fill important niches and for what they were intended they are the best solutions available. I recently was asked to install Linux on a 1998 Toshiba laptop that had a 486 CPU which ran at around 480MHz and had 128MB of RAM, and a 10GB HD. Really to old and slow for Kubuntu or Ubuntu, but Puppy 4.3.1 fit on it like a glove and it was much faster than the vrial and bug infested version of Win95 that was on it. For the Ubuntu feeling I could have used the new version of Puppy, 5.1, based on Ubuntu 10.4.
                  "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                  – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                    #54
                    Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                    Originally posted by GreyGeek
                    Originally posted by rvndmnmt
                    ....
                    I hope KDE isn't a dying option. Though I will have to admit that the standardization of Linux is a plus. Part of me feels like standardizing Linux to GNOME wouldn't be a good choice in the long run.
                    KDE isn't even close to dying. It isn't even sick. In fact, its user base is growing, as is Gnome's, as more and more Windows users learn about Linux and realize they don't have to put up with proprietary lockins and malware vulnerability.

                    Linux isn't standardizing on Gnome or KDE, and neither of those desktops holds a monopoly position in Linux. There are over a dozen different desktop environments. While Gnome and KDE are setting on the Lion's share of desktops those others fill important niches and for what they were intended they are the best solutions available. I recently was asked to install Linux on a 1998 Toshiba laptop that had a 486 CPU which ran at around 480MHz and had 128MB of RAM, and a 10GB HD. Really to old and slow for Kubuntu or Ubuntu, but Puppy 4.3.1 fit on it like a glove and it was much faster than the vrial and bug infested version of Win95 that was on it. For the Ubuntu feeling I could have used the new version of Puppy, 5.1, based on Ubuntu 10.4.
                    KDE 4 is an excellent GUI, however the Kubuntu implementation needs to be more focussed on sorting out bugs prior to release. If that means a delay before that happens then I can't see why that's a problem.

                    When will people understand that Kubuntu is a flagship for KDE, many people will judge it by their own experiences with Kubuntu and draw an unfair conclusion.

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                      #55
                      Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                      Originally posted by tomp01
                      KDE 4 is an excellent GUI, however the Kubuntu implementation needs to be more focussed on sorting out bugs prior to release. If that means a delay before that happens then I can't see why that's a problem.

                      When will people understand that Kubuntu is a flagship for KDE, many people will judge it by their own experiences with Kubuntu and draw an unfair conclusion.
                      I think you nailed it.

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                        #56
                        Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                        That is assuming most bugs are caused by us, not KDE, which is not the case. Most bugs are caused by KDE itself.

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                          #57
                          Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                          Originally posted by oshunluvr
                          I have to say the one tool I grew to love that I miss from my RPM days is Mandrake's Partition Manager tool called "diskdrake". I wish it was ported over to kunbuntu
                          I don't know, Oshunluvr, I've used diskdrake. It's good, but Gparted is, IMO, equally as good. (At least for what I've ever used it for).
                          "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                          – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                            #58
                            Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                            Originally posted by tomp01
                            ....
                            KDE 4 is an excellent GUI, however the Kubuntu implementation needs to be more focussed on sorting out bugs prior to release. If that means a delay before that happens then I can't see why that's a problem.
                            I have no problem waiting for quality, but two releases a year is long enough.

                            What most new users to Linux, and quite a few experienced ones, seem to forget is that the motto of the FOSS/GPL community is "Release early, release often". Where it not for the GPL and the exercise of that RERO paradigm, Linux, Gnome and KDE would NOT exist right now, and most of you folks would be continuing to put your personal and financial info at risk running proprietary systems tested by paid developers, which raises the cost of such system even more. Here is some food for thought about RERO, beginning with around 2002:
                            http://radio-weblogs.com/0103807/sto...easeOften.html
                            http://radio-weblogs.com/0103807/sto...easeOften.html
                            and just this summer, with Chromium:
                            http://blog.chromium.org/2010/07/rel...ase-often.html

                            So, don't be so quick to use "Windows Think". This is Linux, where you get better for less, eventually, IF YOU HELP! (P.S. -- bitching and moaning isn't helping)


                            When will people understand that Kubuntu is a flagship for KDE, many people will judge it by their own experiences with Kubuntu and draw an unfair conclusion.
                            Where did you get that idea? That claim would imply that the KDE developers are designing KDE for a particular distro, and I've never seen any evidence of that. I've never read a single comment from any KDE developer that even implied that Kubuntu was the flagship for KDE. I've read where folks claimed that openSUSE was KDE's "flagship" distro. Dittos for Mandriva, Kubuntu and even Linux Mint 8 KDE.

                            I doubt Aaron would allow such an attitude to take hold.
                            "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                            – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                              #59
                              Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                              Originally posted by oshunluvr
                              I have to say the one tool I grew to love that I miss from my RPM days is Mandrake's Partition Manager tool called "diskdrake". I wish it was ported over to kunbuntu
                              Kde has its own partition manager, just install the package partitionmanager. It's clearly better than diskdrake, I'd say.
                              Shinda Sekai Sensen<br /><br />Kubuntu Maverick RC x64 w/ Kde 4.5.2 (main)<br />Kubuntu 10.04 x64 w/ Kde 4.5.1 to be wiped, no point in keeping it any longer

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                                #60
                                Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

                                Really? I can't find any options in kde partitionmanager to relocate data from one partition to another and remount it while saving the changes to fstab, edit mount locations - and save the changes to fstab, or do anything with my raid partitions.

                                Diskdrake would do all that (except the raid stuff AFAIK because I wasn't using raid back then) and could do it in 2002. For example, you could install Mandrake, boot into it, decide you wanted /tmp on a different partition, choose the destination, click "move" and "save changes". Then a reboot and you were done.

                                Nor by the way does Gparted do those things but at least it sees that I have RAID devices.

                                Please Read Me

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