I would like (love actually) to see Kubuntu develop, either as part of installation, or as a utility for use "post installation", allowing for deselection of compiled and/or runtime kernel modules that as a user, I may have no need for, or do not want loaded. One of the best ways to increase speed - on any platform - is to 'trim the kernel' of excess baggage that the user will not, or does not, want.
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Windows no longer obstructs my view.
Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock HolmesTags: None
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I do like your idea , but I'm not convinced that enough people will find it useful to make the new tool worthwhile. Assuming most Kubuntu users have similar levels of experience to my own, I don't know what most packages and services pre-installed on Kubuntu actually do. Furthermore, how do I know removing any particular package won't make my Kubuntu insane or unstable?
I've already invested a good amount of time learning how to configure the packages I need to use Kubuntu productively. Tinkering with customizations carries a certain amount of risk, and my data is very important to me. It may be best to leave the customization and optimization to people who are willing to learn how on their own. An ultimate tweaking tool may just make it too easy for the inexperienced to hose their systems.
Well, those are my thoughts, I'm sure there's plenty of room for argument on both sides, so what do you think?
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You make some good points. But if one was asked during installation, which is already done (language, keyboard layout, etc), which "optional" services you wanted to use - Bluetooth being a prime example - with simple Y/n answer options, I don't think any harm would result.Windows no longer obstructs my view.
Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes
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I think Snowhog's suggestion is a good one in essence. However, I also agree with Telengard's comments. I think a reasonable way to give the end user control while retaining a kernel's capabilities (and by far the easiest way to speed up a system) is to limit the modules and daemons that are run at startup.
Here is a list of my modules:
mii sis900 slhc snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-rawmidi snd-timer snd snd-ens1370 soundcore vboxdrv
syslog-ng @network netfs @crond @sensors @alsa @mysqld @openntpd @sshd @cups @hal gamin kdmOnce your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ
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Originally posted by SnowhogBut if one was asked during installation, which is already done (language, keyboard layout, etc), which "optional" services you wanted to use - Bluetooth being a prime example - with simple Y/n answer options, I don't think any harm would result.
Even so, I still have no idea why at various times Kubuntu has by default included software for graphics tablets, specific printers, and various bits like you mention. I would guess that only a tiny minority of users have these devices and wish to use them. Why burden everyone with those packages by default? I don't know the answers, but I suppose those decisions should be based on what will make things easiest for all users.
If a customizable, tweak-able installer is needed then it should be hidden behind an advanced button. It could also be made available by a command line option. Finally, it could be made available only on the Alternate CD which, according to the Ubuntu pages, is supposed to provide advanced options for users who need them.
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I'd like to see Kubuntu STOP 'Windows-like' "FIXES' which are often counter-productive and "un-Linux-like.' Why does this distro always change things that were working before?
SU -> SUDO
no alsaconf or any way of configuring sound.
I'm just tired of it.
I grit my teeth when the LiveCD wouldn't work. I waited for KDE 4 to progress and now there are other problems. Installing a video driver DISABLES sound and eliminates whatever 'helper files' allows sound to work.
After googling and searching both Kubuntu AND Ubuntu forums, there is no solution. What a POS OS!
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Originally posted by kbuntSU -> SUDO
you can always use su if you want to, and the su is always there, in ubuntu of course.
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Hi kbunt,
Originally posted by kbuntI'd like to see Kubuntu STOP 'Windows-like' "FIXES' which are often counter-productive and "un-Linux-like.' Why does this distro always change things that were working before?
If you seriously want something more UNIX-like, then you should try Slackware, which aims to be the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there. I've been experimenting a bit with it, and I'm very impressed with the simplicity and minimalism they've achieved. Although I'm not switching any time soon, Slackware seems like a good choice if you want a mix of stable and customizable. Read more about it at http://www.slackbook.org
Originally posted by Slackware Linux EssentialsThere are many reasons why Slackware is Linux's oldest living distribution. It does not try to emulate Windows, it tries to be as Unix-like as possible. It does not try to cover up processes with fancy, point-and-click GUIs (Graphical User Interfaces). Instead, it puts users in control by letting them see exactly what's going on. Its development is not rushed to meet deadlines-each version comes out when it is ready.Originally posted by kbuntSU -> SUDO
Originally posted by kbuntno alsaconf or any way of configuring sound. I'm just tired of it.
Originally posted by kbuntAfter googling and searching both Kubuntu AND Ubuntu forums, there is no solution. What a POS OS!
http://ubuntuforums.org
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/
http://kubuntuway.net/
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