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    Virtual Box or VMware player?????

    Hi All,
    I am wondering what you guys think of both of these great VM softwares.

    Let me start by saying I use both! Why? Well I was sold on VMware Player but could not get it running on my desk top after moving to 8.4. See when I moved to 8.4 I did so on my laptop (IBM T43), and desktop AMD XP 2400. I could not figure this issue out for the life of me. See the desktop gave me errors on the modules and once I ran the install I could not go back with out rebuilding. At this point I gave VBox a try.

    Of the both I like Vbox over VMware, I feel the full screen support is better and the install guest addons for the guest VM is great. Yes there is some issue with getting the USB to work but it not to bad. Below is whtat I did to get it woking.

    Code:
    VirtualBox Software Install, and configure
    [url]http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/12/installing-virtualbox-with-usb-support.html[/url]
    Step 1: Download and Install VirtualBox
    
    
    Step 2: Setup User groups & USB support
    *Add yourself as a virtual box user
    In a terminal type:
    sudo adduser username vboxusers
    You must replace userame with your user name!
    Or you can do this with the GUI user manager.
    
    *Add USB support to you fstab file
    In a terminal type:
    sudo gedit /etc/fstab
    And paste this line to the end of your fstab
    none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=1001,devmode=664 0 0
    
    *Enable USB
    In a terminal type:
    sudo gedit /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh
    You need to look for this section:
    #
    # Magic to make /proc/bus/usb work
    #
    #mkdir -p /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs
    #domount usbfs "" /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs -obusmode=0700,devmode=0600,listmode=0644
    #ln -s .usbfs/devices /dev/bus/usb/devices
    #mount --rbind /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb
    And delete all the # shown, it should look exactly like this.
    
    #Magic to make /proc/bus/usb work
    
    mkdir -p /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs
    domount usbfs "" /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs -obusmode=0700,devmode=0600,listmode=0644
    ln -s .usbfs/devices /dev/bus/usb/devices
    mount --rbind /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb
    
    Find your vboxusers number
    In a terminal type:
    sudo gedit /etc/group
    
    Look for this, the number following it is your vboxusers number
    vboxusers:x:NUMBER
    
    Next you have to add a line to your /etc/fstab to allow usb mounting
    In a terminal type:
    sudo gedit /etc/fstab
    
    Add this line:
    none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid= enter vboxusers number HERE,devmode=664 0 0
    
    Allow access to /proc/bus/usb/
    in a teminal type:
    sudo chown -R root:vboxusers /proc/bus/usb
    
    Once you Log out or reboot, you can start VirtualBox (Applications>System Tools>Innotek VirtualBox)
    
    Vbox mount share folder in windows guest (VM machine).
    net use x: \\vboxsvr\your share folder name
    The your share folder name in a folder you create in the host machine, so enter that folder name in the net use command.
    I would love to hear for you guys.

    Noel Vh
    ++Noel Vh++<br />Desktop support Lv II, III<br />Large Pharma company<br />New Jersey USA

    #2
    Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

    I've only got virtualbox, so here my comments:

    +
    can mount CDs/iso/USB after having installed the GuestAddition addon

    -
    shared folder somewhat cumbersome to set up
    not possible (as far as I can see) to copy something in the guest OS and paste in the host or vice versa.
    Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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      #3
      Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

      Noel, I'm with you and Toad. Running the Sun Vbox and love it. Eveything Toad said plus I don't have to do anything to get the cursor outa the guest back to the desktop. It just magically goes. I tried VMware player but like the "box" better.

      Bob
      Being able to access the internet whilst answering a call of nature was &#39;one of life&#39;s most liberating experiences.&#39;&nbsp; Vic Hayes

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        #4
        Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

        I've been running the free VMWare Player for two years, and have found it totally satisfactory for my Win XP VM, but a problem has cropped up in Player 2.5 on 8.10/KDE4 that might force me to change to VBox. The keyboard cursor keys and the delete key are disabled in the Win XP VM. I spent quite a while with VMWare Tools yesterday, testing and experimenting, and I'm pretty sure the problem is caused by KDE4, not the 2.6.27 kernel.

        Is anyone running Win XP in VBox on 8.10? Can you check and verify that the cursor keys work correctly, please and thank you?

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          #5
          Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

          dibl, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "cursor keys" I just brought up the control panel in XPPro in Sun box under KDE 8.10 beta with all upgrades to date. While in control panel I used the arrow keys in the num pad and the other ones I have and the cursor hopped about pleasantly. If that's not what you were getting at let me know and I'll diddle some more I love this stuff. Just can't type worth a hoot. BTW new Sun vbox out at http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...xdownload.html if ya wanna try it I haven't got it yet, I lied I just d/led it but haven't installed it. Got a msg about a new version when I brought it up a minute ago.

          HTH,
          Bob
          Being able to access the internet whilst answering a call of nature was &#39;one of life&#39;s most liberating experiences.&#39;&nbsp; Vic Hayes

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            #6
            Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

            Well I wanted to update my Pista in VM on my work box and found that after the big round of up dates I was not able to load any of my VM machines. I use Vbox on this machine. I went out to the Vbox web site DL the new version installed it and am running fine now.

            Noel Vh
            ++Noel Vh++<br />Desktop support Lv II, III<br />Large Pharma company<br />New Jersey USA

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              #7
              Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

              Originally posted by bsoderror

              dibl, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "cursor keys"
              These are the four "arrow" keys on a 105-key keyboard, near the bottom between the QWERTY part and the numeric keypad at the right end. IIRC my delete key doesn't do anything either, so I'm stuck using the Backspace key to do editing work.

              Thanks!

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                #8
                Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

                Originally posted by dibl
                I spent quite a while with VMWare Tools yesterday, testing and experimenting, and I'm pretty sure the problem is caused by KDE4, not the 2.6.27 kernel.
                You can eliminate/confirm a kernel problem as the cause by booting into the earlier kernel. Do you still have the cursor key problem with that kernel?
                Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                  #9
                  Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

                  Yep. I don't need to boot it -- I had the problem with 2.6.26 and now again with 2.6.27. Which proves it's either BOTH kernels, or non-kernel related which is what I think it is. Prolly it's KDE4/Kwin or something closely akin to them. The same VM runs fine in sidux/KDE 3.5.10, on a 2.6.26 kernel.

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                    #10
                    Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??



                    These are the four "arrow" keys on a 105-key keyboard, near the bottom between the QWERTY part and the numeric keypad at the right end. IIRC my delete key doesn't do anything either, so I'm stuck using the Backspace key to do editing work.

                    Thanks!
                    [/quote]

                    All my keys work fine including the ones you reference.
                    Being able to access the internet whilst answering a call of nature was &#39;one of life&#39;s most liberating experiences.&#39;&nbsp; Vic Hayes

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                      #11
                      Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

                      dibl, 1st time I've tried the "quote" can you tell? You get the gist though. For a little while I had VM-player and the Sun box both installed and using. No problems. They are still installed but vm is idle till the Sun breaks
                      Being able to access the internet whilst answering a call of nature was &#39;one of life&#39;s most liberating experiences.&#39;&nbsp; Vic Hayes

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                        #12
                        Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

                        FIXED!

                        The fix for keyboard weirdness in VMWare Player 2.5 on Intrepid Ibex is here:

                        http://nthrbldyblg.blogspot.com/2008...rd-effect.html

                        To recap:

                        Put this in ~/.vmware/config:

                        xkeymap.keycode.108 = 0x138 # Alt_R
                        xkeymap.keycode.106 = 0x135 # KP_Divide
                        xkeymap.keycode.104 = 0x11c # KP_Enter
                        xkeymap.keycode.111 = 0x148 # Up
                        xkeymap.keycode.116 = 0x150 # Down
                        xkeymap.keycode.113 = 0x14b # Left
                        xkeymap.keycode.114 = 0x14d # Right
                        xkeymap.keycode.105 = 0x11d # Control_R
                        xkeymap.keycode.118 = 0x152 # Insert
                        xkeymap.keycode.119 = 0x153 # Delete
                        xkeymap.keycode.110 = 0x147 # Home
                        xkeymap.keycode.115 = 0x14f # End
                        xkeymap.keycode.112 = 0x149 # Prior
                        xkeymap.keycode.117 = 0x151 # Next
                        xkeymap.keycode.78 = 0x46 # Scroll_Lock
                        xkeymap.keycode.127 = 0x100 # Pause
                        xkeymap.keycode.133 = 0x15b # Meta_L
                        xkeymap.keycode.134 = 0x15c # Meta_R
                        xkeymap.keycode.135 = 0x15d # Menu

                        done!




                        I guess my planned experiment with VBox will await another day.

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                          #13
                          Re: Virtual Box or VMware player??

                          I have Virtualbox installed. And I have found it works well. But I could not do what I really wanted to do, and that is to use my existing XP Pro install in virtual box. I could easily install XP with an install disk, but I could not use my existing install. After a lot of frustration I found out the reason it won't work is because my XP is on a sata drive. If it were on an IDE drive it would work. I have read that I can use an image of my XP install created by the VMWare image creator program and install it that way, but I have not tried that yet. I can't decide if I want to use VB and go that way, or just install VM and see if that works.

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