Kubuntu future?

[ricnmar]

Re: Kubuntu future?

I like the Ubuntu forums too! The interesting thing that I have noticed there though is that there are many, many posts for Kubuntu. I realy like both, but sometimes it seems overwhelming on the Ubuntu forum... it is cluttered a bit and I get that information overload feeling... I know the answer I want is there, but then my search finds 682 hits... YIKES!

I guess on this Kubuntu forum , it is more like KDE and by that I mean cleaner and more intuitive.

I know I wandered off topic, sorry!

ricnmar

[Fenyx]

Re: Kubuntu future?

Yeah, the Ubuntu community (both Ubuntuforums and KubuntuForums) are great. They're one of the main reasons I'm sticking with Kubuntu. Of course, as some had said, I could use another distro but still be active in the forums. But then, if I'd be using something different from everybody else, I wouldn't be much help, would I?

Anyway, I find Kubuntu Breezy to be buggy for me right now. I haven't tried MEPIS for long (just a few hours on a LiveCD) so I really can't say if it's better. But it looks/feels a bit more polished.

In Breezy, Konqueror crashes on me once in a while, and sometimes more. Kubuntu, at least in Breezy, feels like it's really just an add-on project rather than a "branch". Adept is terrible (sorry, I can't find any kinder word for it). System Settings is quite ok, but the search function of KControl kicks its ass. I hope this things change in Dapper and Edgy. Otherwise, I might be seeing myself slowly migrating to somewhere else...

(Is the MEPIS forums really bad? I've heard not so quite good comments about it everywhere)

[aysiu]

Re: Kubuntu future?

The Mepis forums just don't have a lot of knowledgeable users. MepisLovers is quite friendly--they just won't be able to answer your questions.

I like the liveliness of the Ubuntu Forums.

These Kubuntu Forums have their own pluses, too:

1. They tend to have more up-time. The Ubuntu Forums have been down a lot lately.
2. They have fewer trolls and flame-baiters.
3. Everyone knows you use kwrite and kate, not gedit.

[Fenyx]

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Well, being friendly is nice. But being friendly and helpful is quite a plus.
Hopefully, the new Kubuntu-based (or should I say Ubuntu-based?) MEPIS might change that situation, for the better.

Yeah, Ubuntuforums has been down quite a lot recently. I wonder why. And there seems to be more and more trolls/flame-baiters coming in. Oh well, there will always be oddballs in any family

Well, back to the topic, sort of...
Aside from the not-so distant future (Edgy), how about the near future (Dapper)? How is Kubuntu doing in Dapper? How is KDE's performance? I hope it's better. I really like KDE. But it seems that Kubuntu Breezy has some problems with KDE. Maybe it's just me and some of the manual tweaking that I've done. But even on a fresh install, seems like there are many things to be ironed out.

[aysiu]

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Aside from the not-so distant future (Edgy), how about the near future (Dapper)? How is Kubuntu doing in Dapper? How is KDE's performance? I hope it's better. I really like KDE. But it seems that Kubuntu Breezy has some problems with KDE. Maybe it's just me and some of the manual tweaking that I've done. But even on a fresh install, seems like there are many things to be ironed out.

I'm using Kubuntu Dapper right now, and it's very nice and smooth. No real problems.

[Fenyx]

Re: Kubuntu future?

Hmm... looks like I'll be downloading the Flight 7 ISO. I'll check out the Desktop CD (new name for the Live CD). the last FLight I tried out was F5 and wasn't really that impressed. I'm really excited.

[claydoh]

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The Mepis forums just don't have a lot of knowledgeable users. MepisLovers is quite friendly--they just won't be able to answer your questions.

I like the liveliness of the Ubuntu Forums.

These Kubuntu Forums have their own pluses, too:

1. They tend to have more up-time. The Ubuntu Forums have been down a lot lately.
2. They have fewer trolls and flame-baiters.
3. Everyone knows you use kwrite and kate, not gedit.

I heartily agree with you on this, but what is a troll? , I have not seen one

[aysiu]

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I heartily agree with you on this, but what is a troll? , I have not seen one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

[claydoh]

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I heartily agree with you on this, but what is a troll? , I have not seen one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

LOL! (my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek on that one)

I also agree that dapper is quite well done now, and is miles and miles above breezy in all areas

[aysiu]

Re: Kubuntu future?

I heartily agree with you on this, but what is a troll? , I have not seen one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

LOL! (my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek on that one)

I also agree that dapper is quite well done now, and is miles and miles above breezy in all areas

Whoops. I missed that one. Sorry.

[awakatanka]

Re: Kubuntu future?

Must say kubuntu is more stable now then early on, but still don't realy like the looks/design. The background picture i find it plain ugly. And users that try it the first time need a good first impression.

But with the love that is promised i hope it going to look more pro in next release.

As for mepis / kubuntu atm they are both very stable here now. Before mepis was a bit ahead. I stay with kubuntu for now but i let a partition free for mepis to. I like the cleaner install of apps of kubuntu above mepis. If they both had the same clean install of apps  i probaly used mepis because they support more drivers and codecs.

On to edgy now 

btw i don't think kubuntu forum is realy bad but if you used ubuntu forums then everything looks less. And i agree that there to much gnome/kde trolling in ubuntu forums. And i'm sometime stupid to answer when i know its trolling.

[Fenyx]

Re: Kubuntu future?

Funny, we have exactly the opposite opinions on the default wallpaper and window decorations (I don't like the widget style, though). Nothing like blue, bubbles, and waves to remind you of water and calm the nerves, especially when you're all nervous and excited trying out a new release.

I'm really looking forward to Kubuntu Dapper's performance. I love KDE, and Kubuntu is my first and only distro (so far). However, Konqueror, my most loved app, crashes on me a lot in Breezy. I've also experienced some random KDE/KWin crashes here and there. And though I want to try out other distros, what keeps me in the fold is the wonderful community and the promise of a better future for KDE.

I'm really considering MEPIS, too, especially since it will be based on Ubuntu, I'm won't be that far. Except that it has all propriety codecs/plugins built-in. While I actually use/need those stuff, I prefer that my OS, by default, doesn't have them as a matter of principle/philosophy. (When it comes to commitment to FOSS, Debian is king, but I heard the community there is not as "friendly" to non-technical persons as Ubuntu is).

Regarding the Kubuntu forums, it's not bad at all. Just needs a few tweaks, a few "spread-the-word-about-KFN" , a few more knowledgeable persons, and a few more regular members/posters, and we've got ourselves a good place to be. Ubuntuforums is also not that bad, except for a few persons (actually really I have one person on my mind) who are... (censored). Also feels a bit congested. But I hang around a lot in the Ubuntu Cafe, and see if I can help a bit in the Kubuntu sections. other than that, I'm here.

[askrieger]

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I just can't stand the fact that all the useful threads over there are 14 pages long with a low signal to noise ratio. Over here, if you get an answer, it's more likely to be useful and the only thread that exceeds 3 pages that I can think of offhand is the desktop pictures. I agree, though that we need some more experts.

I would have to agree that Debian does not see itself as a distribution for new users, or even old, non-professional users.

[Fenyx]

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Well, that's what you get for being such a high-traffic and very well-known site. I guess being famous isn't all that good after all.

I was going to try out Debian (after reading about how Debian Etch could also be used for a more or less stable desktop setup). I mean, it's the grand daddy of most great Linux distros and it has an even stricter commitment to free software. However, after some reading in Google, I changed my mind because I couldn't find much reference to the Debian users community, and that the Debian community itself is really mostly made up of developers and are more technically oriented. That, and the fact that the mailing list is still their primary form of community communication might be scary to newbies (like me?). At least, that's the impression that I got from reading posts scattered over the web. I'm assuming that I'd probably get better technical help there, but I'll probably be told to RT(F)M, too.

Anyway, my own Kubuntu future is a bit gray right now. Trying to do a dist-upgrade but have met hiccups from the very start... Makes me really, really sad. (And I though upgrading in Linux would be easy?)

[askrieger]

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Debian isn't THAT bad. The Debian Administration site: http://www.debian-administration.org/ is really designed for mere mortals by a guy who is totally unaffiliated with the official Debian organization, (sort of like this site). The main attraction of Debian is the nearly 18,000 packages covering just about every subject the human mind can comprehend, all for free and all updated frequently (at least if you use unstable).

I'm still hoping that the Ubuntu team will iron out the problems in Dapper, even if it's not by tomorrow.