The Irony...

[marshallbanana]

I just saw some survey results from linux questions over at dot kde. I just wanted to highlight the irony of our using dolphin when konqueror won the best file manager category

Disclaimer: I use konqueror and am still bitter about its replacement by dolphin as the default file manager

[DeathKitten]

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Yeah, on the subject of dolphin? I uninstalled it and set my default file manager back to Konqueror. I wasn't sure how to make it let me delete files outright, instead of making me send them to trash (this causes problems when I'm dealing with removable media like jump drives and mp3 players). There were other things that irritated me too, but that's the one that stood out as most memorable.

At any rate, given the way things work on this forum, I fully expect to have one or more of the experts pop up and tell me exactly how to fix this annoying problem in dolphin, or at least explain to me how I was wrong for finding it as a problem. :P If this does happen, I may or may not give dolphin another go, but for now it's uninstalled.

[Qqmike]

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I'm with ya on this one, marshallbanana. Makes no sense. Sorta reminds you of how things change nowadays, yet the “new” [consumer] products don't seem as good as the older products. You wonder why marketing beat out engineering, or if engineering sold out. As for the topic here, I can't relate to ever using Dolphin for anything serious or ongoing. As long as Konqueror remains available, by hook-or-crook. Who knows, maybe it will reverse itself and the powers-to-be will remove the damn thing.

[monte48lowes]

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I like dolphin. It tastes good. Seriously, I use both. Dolphin works well for simple file manager tasks, I like the split view which makes it simple to transfer files. I also like the 'directory' buttons/tabs at the top. However, konq can fish:/...

Mike

[marshallbanana]

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Some more...currently the 25th most requested entry on the new ubuntu brainstorm is tabs in nautilus (the gnome file manager).

[bmccosar]

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Hmm. Maybe it's because I'm new to KDE, but I actually arrived at the split solution above. I use Dolphin for simple tasks (opening the home folder and playing a music file I've just generated) and Konqueror for all the serious tasks -- anything where you need to switch between net behavior (reading html manual pages) to file manager behavior rapidly. For example, all my Python and Csound documentation is . . . Konquer'd

[MoonRise]

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I like dolphin. It tastes good. Seriously, I use both. Dolphin works well for simple file manager tasks, I like the split view which makes it simple to transfer files. I also like the 'directory' buttons/tabs at the top. However, konq can fish:/...

Mike

I'm with you one this. For normal browsing I do use Dolphin (recently switched it back to Dolphin to "get use to it"). I know how to get to Konqueror quick enough to do my high level stuff. What is a shame is that there wasn't an effort to blend. Leave the core Konqueror but offer a "skinning" mechanism to make it appear like Dolphin would?

[marshallbanana]

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Actually I believe the konqueror team are planning some work on getting some the extra features dolphin brings incorporated into konq to improve its file handling skills. (I'm not 100% on this but I seem to remember reading a bit about it)

[MoonRise]

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I think it would be best to have just ONE file manager (IMHO).

[claydoh]

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Has anyone actually used the 'real' dolphin, from KDE4? it is in a completely different league than the one in KDE3. I am kinda fond of dolphin, so i am not unbiased on this, but I think in the long run , Dolphin will win out. I say this as a Konqueror fanboi of sorts. I am becoming quite fond of the breadcrumb method in place of the address bar, for example. I hardly ever even open Konqueror for other than web browsing anymore, and that is with the 'crappy' d3lphin of KDE3


Konqueror will end up using Dolphin's backend file management bits, much like it uses khtml as a backend for web browsing/html rendering, and kfile (or whatever it is called) for its file management stuff currently. So Konqueor ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

[DeathKitten]

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claydoh, if you can teach me how to outright delete stuff in dolphin, instead of having to send it to the trash, I'll consider giving it another go.

[MoonRise]

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I've actually been giving Dolphin a try. It has grown on me. However, and big however, when browsing Network Shares it does not retain the UserName/Password to continue browsing those shares. Always have to go back to Konqueror to do my file moving. Very annoying in that respect. Otherwise, it has been great.

This is under Kubuntu 7.10 w/ KDE 3.5.9

[claydoh]

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claydoh, if you can teach me how to outright delete stuff in dolphin, instead of having to send it to the trash, I'll consider giving it another go.

You can do this, in the KDE4 version, I do not see a way to make it work in the old version, even comparing their respective config files for ideas. (d3lphin-kde3 and Dolphin-kde4 are really two separate apps, code-wise)

[claydoh]

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I've actually been giving Dolphin a try. It has grown on me. However, and big however, when browsing Network Shares it does not retain the UserName/Password to continue browsing those shares. Always have to go back to Konqueror to do my file moving. Very annoying in that respect. Otherwise, it has been great.

This is under Kubuntu 7.10 w/ KDE 3.5.9

I don't have this browsing remote shares (ftp) or my local samba shares, I don't think. I am in hardy though, same kde version

[DeathKitten]

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claydoh, if you can teach me how to outright delete stuff in dolphin, instead of having to send it to the trash, I'll consider giving it another go.

You can do this, in the KDE4 version, I do not see a way to make it work in the old version, even comparing their respective config files for ideas. (d3lphin-kde3 and Dolphin-kde4 are really two separate apps, code-wise)

I am needed some video card upgrading to happen before I can give the kde4 stuff a go, one of my video cards bites the big one, and I really don't want to have to step down to a single monitor display again. I'll stick with Konqueror for file browsing now then, but I'll keep Dolphin in mind when I have the money to drop on my much needed hardware upgrades.