5.19.1 - a couple of funny ones

[Don B. Cilly]

Today I updated (Neon User), and Plasma went from 5.19.0 to 5.19.1.

My custom Klipper icon disappeared, and I can't get back even the "original" one.
I tried all sorts of places, from /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons/ to /usr/share/icons/breeze/ to ~/.local/share/plasma/desktoptheme/customtheme/icons/ ... switching themes... no luck.
No big deal, I just use the empty panel space to get at klipper.

More annoying, I went to open a text file... Can't find program: Kate.
OK, nothing to do with Plasma, just the same update, but... you can't... what?
You gonna do, lose Dolphin next?

Anyway, I apt-installed kate, and all good. Still, losing Kate... I could make a film with that title... :·/
Just reporting.

[Don B. Cilly]

Losing Kate - Part Two.

I was playing around with the latest (say a week old) Neon User ISO - for testing purposes - and, looking at a text file, it opened it with Kwrite.

I looked, no Kate. I had to install it.
So it looks like neon dropped Kate for Kwrite. Not only on new installations, but it forcibly uninstalls it... at least it uninstalled the one I had.
I wonder what poor Kate did to them... ;·)

But even funnier, I can't find any news anywhere about it.

[claydoh]

Kwrite has been the default for quite some time.
I have always has to install kate on a fresh install.


If you can show in your logs where Kate was removed by some update, you should probably report it as a bug. The removal should not be happening no matter how or when it was installed.

[Don B. Cilly]

Hmm. I don't remember ever installing Kate. Not on Neon, and certainly not on Kubuntu, which I did a few times lately. Maybe my memory fails... unlikely, but possible.
Still, apparently, it was done as part of autoremove:
In /var/log/apt/history.log,

Start-Date: 2020-06-19  08:38:10
Commandline: /usr/bin/apt autoremove
Requested-By: not (1000)
Remove: ... kate5-data:amd64kate:amd64 (4:20.04.2-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build47)  ... kate:amd64 (4:20.04.2-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build47)

The only other references to Kate in that log are June 14th, upgraded, 4:20.04.1, build44.
And then there is, on June 19th, in the big update just prior to the autoremove,
[Upgrade] ktexteditor-katepart:amd64 (5.70.1-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build55, 5.71.0-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build58)

[claydoh]

I still have my kate installed, with no removals, on two systems. No actions other than the upgrades.

[Don B. Cilly]

Try sudo apt autoremove then

[jaidip]

I am using kde neon now. A little different in arrangement from kubuntu. Anyway it is working fine.

[GreyGeek]

I installed K20.04 on Jan 4th. Checking my muon history I notice that kate was installed on that date as well, and at the same time as the rest of the ISO contents; 5:20 pm.

Kate has been my goto editor since 2004. I have used it to open and scan over 1,000 files at a time, and it produces results which show the hits in a list. Clicking on a hit opens that file to the location of the search term(s).

I also noticed that kwrite is not on my system, so it wasn't installed during the installation and I haven't installed it since. It's been so long since I've used it that I can't remember its features.

[mr_raider]

I am using kde neon now. A little different in arrangement from kubuntu. Anyway it is working fine.

Less bloat. I don't use Libre Office, or whatever else Kubuntu installs. A fresh Neon install will rival xfce in terms of resource usage, It idles at around 500MB of RAM.

[GreyGeek]

My K20.04 idles at around 1.5GB, out of 16GB of RAM.
About 0.6GB of that is FireFox, Web and Webextensions.
Plasma takes about 0.125GB.
The rest are a lot of small potatoes.

My Nvidia GT 650M idles at around 200MB out of 2GB.

My Acer V3-771G came with 4GB of RAM. I later upgraded it to 8GB, and while running 18.04 I upgraded it to 16GB.
The more RAM I had the more paging that could be done in RAM and the faster my machine was.
However, NOTHING sped up my Acer the way adding an SSD as my primary drive did. Boot times dropped from 200+ seconds to DE to 30 seconds to DE (which includes the POST).