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    Left over kernel files?

    While mucking about fixing a problem, I noticed there are some "left over" files from an early kernel that is no longer installed.
    Code:
    [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#54FF54][B]stuart@office[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ ls /lib/modules/[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.4.0-53-generic [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.4.0-66-generic [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.8.0-32-generic [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.8.0-39-generic[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#54FF54][B]stuart@office[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ dpkg -l 4.4.0-53[/COLOR]
dpkg-query: no packages found matching 4.4.0-53

[COLOR=#54FF54][B]stuart@office[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ ls /lib/modules/4.4.0-53-generic/updates/kernel/[/COLOR]
snd-hda-codec-analog.ko  snd-hda-codec-cirrus.ko    snd-hda-codec-generic.ko  snd-hda-codec.ko          snd-hda-codec-via.ko  snd-hda-intel.ko
snd-hda-codec-ca0110.ko  snd-hda-codec-cmedia.ko    snd-hda-codec-hdmi.ko     snd-hda-codec-realtek.ko  snd-hda-core.ko
snd-hda-codec-ca0132.ko  snd-hda-codec-conexant.ko  snd-hda-codec-idt.ko      snd-hda-codec-si3054.ko   snd-hda-ext-core.ko[/FONT]

    Nothing else in the folder. My guess is it's safe to remove, but curious how it happened.

    Any guesses?

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    Do you do an autoremove ?


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      #3
      Have you tried uCareSystem Core? It does a lot of great maintenance things, including removing orphaned files.

      • Updates the list of available packages
      • Downloads and install updates
      • Checks if there are any old Linux Kernels and uninstalls them. (By default it retains the current and previous kernels)
      • Clears the retrieved packages
      • Uninstall packages that are obsolete
      • Uninstall orphaned packages
      • Deletes any remaining package settings that you have previously installed, but are now no longer present
      Might be overkill for your needs, but I find it really handy, and do all of my system updates this way now. Plus, absolutely beneficial after an upgrade to a new *buntu version.

      More here: http://www.kdigest.com/2016/08/uCare...Shape.html?m=1
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        #4
        Jerry: Yes I use autoremove, but these few files where somehow left behind. Seemed odd which is why I raised the question.

        Dequire: Interesting experiment with that tool. I ran it for kicks (obviously AFTER a snapshot!) and it did indeed remove a bunch of older and apparently unneeded stuff. It also removed my backup 4.4 kernel (which I expected). It crashed (sort-of) when cleaning up Steam files. Apparently, Steam detected the removal process (even though it wasn't running) and put out a warning in the terminal which I was not able to continue past - there was an OK to continue option but I could not activate it. I eventually killed the ucaresystem-core process which of course left dpkg undone and left a couple lock files behind. After removing the lock files, running dpkg --configure -a, I re-ran ucaresystem-core again and it continued with the clean up efforts without error. However, it did NOT remove the apparently abandoned files from the 4.4.0-53 kernel headers.

        Sort of unrelated, but I re-installed the 4.4.0-67 kernel and dkms worked correctly, which it hadn't just before this. I was somewhat nervous when I saw everything that ucaresystem-core removed, but I'm going to let it be for now and see if anything I actually needed or wanted was removed. As far as I can tell, there's no "simulate" option for the program which makes it dangerous in my opinion. This, plus the bug I encountered, puts me on-the-fence about this tool.

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          oshunluvr - That's extremely odd to me! I've run ucaresystem on so many different PC's, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Neon, for a few years now. I always have Steam running on my PC, pretty much 24 x 7. I have never seen what you've experienced, nor ever been prompted for a approval-dialogue once the program was run. If you're curious, you can peruse the code here. It's just a simple script. My guess is, like you summized, something triggered in Steam to intervene, but I would have thought I would have seen that behavior before. For reference I have 83 Linux games on Steam. I re-ran ucaresystem-core this morning and didn't have an issue. Maybe if one has congig files from games in a folder that Steam somehow deems it necessary to monitor, would what you've experienced happen.

          But again, I've never seen it.

          As a side rant, I wish Steam would standardize where cofig files and save games need to be placed in the folder hierarchy. As it is now, every game seems to be able to litter your hidden files folders with game-specific config and save files wherever it pleases.
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            Left over kernel files?

            Dequire , that is one cool piece of code, and relatively simple. I cannot see any way that script could hurt a system, and lots of ways it can heal problem installations.


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              I agree with the side rant: That's what we call in my industry "First day stuff..."

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                Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                While mucking about fixing a problem, I noticed there are some "left over" files from an early kernel that is no longer installed.
                Code:
                [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#54FF54][B]stuart@office[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ ls /lib/modules/[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.4.0-53-generic [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.4.0-66-generic [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.8.0-32-generic [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]4.8.0-39-generic[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#54FF54][B]stuart@office[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ dpkg -l 4.4.0-53[/COLOR]
dpkg-query: no packages found matching 4.4.0-53

[COLOR=#54FF54][B]stuart@office[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ ls /lib/modules/4.4.0-53-generic/updates/kernel/[/COLOR]
snd-hda-codec-analog.ko  snd-hda-codec-cirrus.ko    snd-hda-codec-generic.ko  snd-hda-codec.ko          snd-hda-codec-via.ko  snd-hda-intel.ko
snd-hda-codec-ca0110.ko  snd-hda-codec-cmedia.ko    snd-hda-codec-hdmi.ko     snd-hda-codec-realtek.ko  snd-hda-core.ko
snd-hda-codec-ca0132.ko  snd-hda-codec-conexant.ko  snd-hda-codec-idt.ko      snd-hda-codec-si3054.ko   snd-hda-ext-core.ko[/FONT]

                Nothing else in the folder. My guess is it's safe to remove, but curious how it happened.

                Any guesses?
                I see this rather more frequently than I expect I should. I will now and then, go searching for kernel kruft that doesn't get removed as I believe it should. Why does this happen? Haven't the foggiest.
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                  #9
                  Following dequire's advice I downloaded and ran ucaresystem-core and below is what I got. The section that found config files to remove is surprising to me. I've always used the purge option when removing packages and the man pages say:


                  "purge
                  purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too)."


                  So, doesn't purge purge config files any more?

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                  [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]_______________________________________________________[/COLOR]
                                                        
            uCareSystem Core v3.0                       
                 ~  ''  ~                               
                                                        
 Welcome to all-in-one System Update and maintenance    
 assistant app.                                         
                                                        
                                                        
 This simple script will automatically                
 refresh your packagelist, download and                 
 install updates (if there are any), remove any old     
 kernels, obsolete packages and configuration files     
 to free up disk space, without any need of user        
 interference.                                                        
_______________________________________________________

 uCareSystem Core will start in 5 seconds...  
#########################
          Started
#########################

Ign:1 [URL]http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb[/URL] stable InRelease
Get:2 [URL]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-security InRelease [102 kB]                                                                              
Hit:3 [URL]http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb[/URL] stable Release                                                                                               
Hit:4 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial InRelease                                                                                              
Hit:5 [URL]http://repo.steampowered.com/steam[/URL] precise InRelease                                                                                              
Get:6 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]                                                                             
Hit:7 [URL]http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial InRelease                                                                                              
Hit:8 [URL]http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu[/URL] xenial InRelease                                                                             
Hit:10 [URL]http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu[/URL] xenial InRelease                                                                            
Ign:11 [URL]http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb[/URL] stable InRelease                                                                                              
Hit:12 [URL]http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb[/URL] stable Release                                                                            
Hit:13 [URL]http://ppa.launchpad.net/openshot.developers/ppa/ubuntu[/URL] xenial InRelease                
Get:14 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-backports InRelease [102 kB]
Hit:15 [URL]http://archive.neon.kde.org/user[/URL] xenial InRelease                             
Get:16 [URL]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-security/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [54.2 kB]
Get:18 [URL]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-security/main DEP-11 128x128 Icons [115 kB]
Get:19 [URL]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-security/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [32.1 kB]
Get:20 [URL]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-security/universe DEP-11 128x128 Icons [98.5 kB]
Get:21 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [288 kB]                              
Get:22 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-updates/main DEP-11 128x128 Icons [453 kB]
Get:23 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-updates/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [159 kB]
Get:24 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-updates/universe DEP-11 128x128 Icons [467 kB]
Get:25 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-updates/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2,516 B]
Get:26 [URL]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/URL] xenial-backports/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [3,324 B]
Fetched 1,979 kB in 2s (937 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

###############################
Finished updating package lists
###############################
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

###############################################
Finished updating packages and system libraries
###############################################

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

###################################
Finished removing unneeded packages
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No kernels are eligible for removal
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

###################################
Finished removing old kernels
###################################

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  accountwizard* apport* gnuplot-x11* kdepim-runtime* kerneloops-daemon* libakonadi-contact4* libconfig9* libkexiv2-11v5* libkf5calendarsupport-data*
  libkf5eventviews-data* libkf5gapi-data* libkf5grantleetheme5* libkf5gravatar5* libkf5kdgantt2-5* libkf5libkdepim-data* libqimageblitz4*
  libsyndication4* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-45-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-51-generic*
  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-53-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic*
  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-64-generic* linux-image-extra-4.4.0-65-generic* mariadb-common* tex-common*
  virtualbox-ext-pack* virtualbox-guest-x11* virtualbox-qt*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 32 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 265138 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing accountwizard (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build22) ...
Purging configuration files for accountwizard (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build22) ...
Removing apport (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1) ...
Purging configuration files for apport (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1) ...
Removing gnuplot-x11 (4.6.6-3) ...
Purging configuration files for gnuplot-x11 (4.6.6-3) ...
Removing kdepim-runtime (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build19) ...
Purging configuration files for kdepim-runtime (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build19) ...
Removing kerneloops-daemon (0.12+git20140509-2ubuntu1) ...
Purging configuration files for kerneloops-daemon (0.12+git20140509-2ubuntu1) ...
Removing libakonadi-contact4 (4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2) ...
Purging configuration files for libakonadi-contact4 (4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2) ...
Removing libconfig9:amd64 (1.5-0.2) ...
Purging configuration files for libconfig9:amd64 (1.5-0.2) ...
Removing libkexiv2-11v5 (4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Purging configuration files for libkexiv2-11v5 (4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Removing libkf5calendarsupport-data (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build15) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5calendarsupport-data (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build15) ...
Removing libkf5eventviews-data (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build16) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5eventviews-data (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build16) ...
Removing libkf5gapi-data (5.3.1-0neon+16.04+build8) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5gapi-data (5.3.1-0neon+16.04+build8) ...
Removing libkf5grantleetheme5 (16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build11) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5grantleetheme5 (16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build11) ...
Removing libkf5gravatar5:amd64 (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build15) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5gravatar5:amd64 (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build15) ...
Removing libkf5kdgantt2-5 (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build12) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5kdgantt2-5 (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build12) ...
Removing libkf5libkdepim-data (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build20) ...
Purging configuration files for libkf5libkdepim-data (4:16.08.3-0neon+16.04+build20) ...
Removing libqimageblitz4 (1:0.0.6-4build1) ...
Purging configuration files for libqimageblitz4 (1:0.0.6-4build1) ...
Removing libsyndication4 (4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2) ...
Purging configuration files for libsyndication4 (4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-45-generic (4.4.0-45.66) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-45-generic (4.4.0-45.66) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic (4.4.0-47.68) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic (4.4.0-47.68) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-51-generic (4.4.0-51.72) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-51-generic (4.4.0-51.72) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-53-generic (4.4.0-53.74) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-53-generic (4.4.0-53.74) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic (4.4.0-57.78) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic (4.4.0-57.78) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic (4.4.0-59.80) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic (4.4.0-59.80) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic (4.4.0-62.83) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic (4.4.0-62.83) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic (4.4.0-63.84) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic (4.4.0-63.84) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-64-generic (4.4.0-64.85) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-64-generic (4.4.0-64.85) ...
Removing linux-image-extra-4.4.0-65-generic (4.4.0-65.86) ...
Purging configuration files for linux-image-extra-4.4.0-65-generic (4.4.0-65.86) ...
Removing mariadb-common (10.0.27-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...
Purging configuration files for mariadb-common (10.0.27-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...
Removing tex-common (6.04) ...
Purging configuration files for tex-common (6.04) ...
Removing virtualbox-ext-pack (5.0.24-0ubuntu1.16.04.1) ...
Purging configuration files for virtualbox-ext-pack (5.0.24-0ubuntu1.16.04.1) ...
Removing virtualbox-guest-x11 (5.0.24-dfsg-0ubuntu1.16.04.1) ...
Purging configuration files for virtualbox-guest-x11 (5.0.24-dfsg-0ubuntu1.16.04.1) ...
Removing virtualbox-qt (5.0.24-dfsg-0ubuntu1.16.04.1) ...
Purging configuration files for virtualbox-qt (5.0.24-dfsg-0ubuntu1.16.04.1) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47ubuntu1) ...

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Finished removing unused config files
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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done

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 Cleaned downloaded temporary packages
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          Done
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And, and aside:
[COLOR=#54FF54][B]jerry@jerry-Aspire-V3-771[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ sudo dkms status[/COLOR]
[sudo] password for jerry:  
bbswitch, 0.8, 4.4.0-66-generic, x86_64: installed
bbswitch, 0.8, 4.4.0-67-generic, x86_64: installed
nvidia-370, 370.28, 4.4.0-66-generic, x86_64: installed
nvidia-370, 370.28, 4.4.0-67-generic, x86_64: installed
[COLOR=#54FF54][B]jerry@jerry-Aspire-V3-771[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454FF][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ [/COLOR]

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dequire View Post
                    ....

                    As a side rant, I wish Steam would standardize where cofig files and save games need to be placed in the folder hierarchy. As it is now, every game seems to be able to litter your hidden files folders with game-specific config and save files wherever it pleases.
                    I've been backing up my system in preparation for installing a new HD. While attempting to copy the Steam files using Dolphiin I got a message aborting the copy because of a socket. When I used mc in a Konsole I do not get that message. Steam's not the only pkg. CUPS, Orbiter and others with links, sockets and pipes can cause failure.
                    Last edited by GreyGeek; Mar 21, 2017, 06:29 PM.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                      So, doesn't purge purge config files any more?
                      Non-user config files are purged, but I don't believe user config files are.
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                        Dequire , that is one cool piece of code, and relatively simple. I cannot see any way that script could hurt a system, and lots of ways it can heal problem installations.

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                        It's invaluable to me when doing an update AFTER a re-boot from upgrading to a new release and making sure my sources are updated to reflect the new version. Pretty impressive how much leftover stuff I find. I use it so much, I don't bother with 'apt update && apt full-upgrade' anymore. oshunluvr's issue aside, I find it invaluable and am grateful for the author making it.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                          I agree with the side rant: That's what we call in my industry "First day stuff..."
                          I know! And opening the containing folder from within Steam is no help, because the config files and game saves are almost never in any correlation nor based in any apprehendable reality to where the game itself is.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
                            Non-user config files are purged, but I don't believe user config files are.
                            mmm... That's a distinction that the man page does not make. But, documentation is often faulty.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                              mmm... That's a distinction that the man page does not make. But, documentation is often faulty.
                              As to the latter, yes. As to the former, it is my belief that this is so; I can't with 100% assurance so it is so.
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