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    #16
    Looks like that while I slept last night you were going hammer and tongs to sort out MoonRise problems. I must confess that when I strike such situations as a black screen, I use alt+ctrl+F1 to login to a terminal mode. On my system I am connected to the internet via Ethernet and I then check the update status with
    Code:
    sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade
    I then fix anything outstanding and if I am still getting a black screen, I then do drastic things like
    Code:
    sudo apt purge nvidia*
    Last edited by NoWorries; Nov 05, 2016, 01:26 AM.

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      #17
      I didn't mean to hijack this thread. Appreciate that help. @ NoWorries: I agree on the alt-ctl-F1 measure but no updates were appearing. What was the eye opener was running journalctl. Seeing the GL error for SDDM sparked my memory on the video driver update. I really didn't equate my problem to that originally until seeing that.

      So, back on the original thread. Has you problem cleared up?

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        #18
        Originally posted by MoonRise View Post
        I didn't mean to hijack this thread. ....... So, back on the original thread. Has you problem cleared up?
        That's OK by me and I didn't loose any sleep over it.

        I am still having the original problem that I reported as it has not gone away. I am beginning to wonder if I am the only one experiencing this problem?

        I did run "journalctl" and the output went for many pages and I could not get any useful information from it and you did well to sort out you problem with it.

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          #19
          Originally posted by NoWorries View Post
          For several days now I have been getting a list of packages that are broken. I have checked the ones that are to be updated and if I did, half my desktop would be gone. What I get is:
          Code:
          :~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree... 50%
          Building dependency tree       
          Reading state information... Done
          Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 4
          Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 4
          Investigating (0) libkf5notifications5 [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161015.0215-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1347-0 > ( libs )
          Broken libkf5notifications5:amd64 Depends on libkf5notifications-data [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161015.0215-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1347-0 > ( libs ) (= 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161015.0215-0)
            Considering libkf5notifications-data:amd64 34 as a solution to libkf5notifications5:amd64 151
            Added libkf5notifications-data:amd64 to the remove list
            Fixing libkf5notifications5:amd64 via keep of libkf5notifications-data:amd64
          Investigating (0) libkf5wallet5 [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0609-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1415-0 > ( libs )
          Broken libkf5wallet5:amd64 Depends on libkf5wallet-data [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0609-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1415-0 > ( libs ) (= 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0609-0)
            Considering libkf5wallet-data:amd64 14 as a solution to libkf5wallet5:amd64 88
            Added libkf5wallet-data:amd64 to the remove list
            Fixing libkf5wallet5:amd64 via keep of libkf5wallet-data:amd64
           Try to Re-Instate (0) libkf5notifications-data:amd64
          Investigating (0) libkf5notifyconfig5 [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0712-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1529-0 > ( libs )
          Broken libkf5notifyconfig5:amd64 Depends on libkf5notifyconfig-data [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0712-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1529-0 > ( libs ) (= 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0712-0)
            Considering libkf5notifyconfig-data:amd64 9 as a solution to libkf5notifyconfig5:amd64 28
            Added libkf5notifyconfig-data:amd64 to the remove list
            Fixing libkf5notifyconfig5:amd64 via keep of libkf5notifyconfig-data:amd64
           Try to Re-Instate (0) libkf5wallet-data:amd64
           Try to Re-Instate (0) libkf5notifyconfig-data:amd64
          Investigating (0) libkf5khtml5 [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0724-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1541-0 > ( libs )
          Broken libkf5khtml5:amd64 Depends on libkf5khtml-data [ amd64 ] < 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0724-0 -> 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161102.1541-0 > ( libs ) (= 5.27.0+p16.04+git20161011.0724-0)
            Considering libkf5khtml-data:amd64 2 as a solution to libkf5khtml5:amd64 8
            Added libkf5khtml-data:amd64 to the remove list
            Fixing libkf5khtml5:amd64 via keep of libkf5khtml-data:amd64
           Try to Re-Instate (0) libkf5khtml-data:amd64
          Done
          Calculating upgrade... Done
          The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
            libcuda1-361 nvidia-opencl-icd-361
          Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
          The following packages have been kept back:
            libkf5khtml-data libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5wallet-data
          0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 4 not to upgrade.
          Is there a way to resolve this problem?
          humm ,,,I dont get the errors , but have the same held packages

          Code:
          vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
          [sudo] password for vinny: 
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree       
          Reading state information... Done
          Calculating upgrade... Done
          The following packages have been kept back:
            libkf5khtml-data libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications-dev libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5wallet-data
          0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
          vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$
          you did do a
          Code:
          sudo apt update
          first right.

          VINNY
          i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
          16GB RAM
          Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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            #20
            Interesting. Notice the package names on my KDE Neon User Edition.

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            "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
            – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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              #21
              Originally posted by vinnywright View Post
              you did do a
              Code:
              sudo apt update
              first right.

              VINNY
              Yes, I always at the start of my morning session do
              Code:
              sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade
              I also have an identical list as you have of packages that are held back.

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                #22
                Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                Interesting. Notice the package names on my KDE Neon User Edition.

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]6789[/ATTACH]
                I just did an identical search with Synaptic and get

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                Which is quite different. Unfortunately I will have to leave now and will get back in a couple of hours to try and sort this out.

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                  #23
                  Hummm and quite different from mine as well ,,,,,,,,,,,,

                  my guess is

                  NoWorries is on /dev/unstabel

                  I am on /dev/stable

                  and GG is on user

                  ,,,,,,am I correct

                  Code:
                  vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ [COLOR=#ff0000]cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep neon[/COLOR]
                  deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/stable/ xenial main 
                  # deb-src http://archive.neon.kde.org/stable/ xenial main
                  what show thee


                  VINNY
                  i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
                  16GB RAM
                  Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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                    #24
                    I am on user


                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                      I am on user


                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                      so I'm correct on 1 of 2 so far LOL

                      let me ask this ,,,,,,,,,are your krunners broken as well ,,,,,,,mine crashes as soon as trying to use it .




                      VINNY
                      i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
                      16GB RAM
                      Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by vinnywright View Post
                        so I'm correct on 1 of 2 so far LOL

                        let me ask this ,,,,,,,,,are your krunners broken as well ,,,,,,,mine crashes as soon as trying to use it .

                        VINNY
                        Nope,works fine!
                        "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                        – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                          #27
                          I find this very puzzling as when I enter the command that you did, I get
                          Code:
                          :~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep neon
                          # deb cdrom:[neon devstable _Xenial_ - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 20161005-10:56]/ xenial universe restricted multiverse main
                          I also have the following from Synaptic Repositories

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                          This shows that I am using the Stable option. I have two laptops which behave in the same way and I used:

                          http://files.kde.org/neon/images/neo...1047-amd64.iso

                          To install neon. I did this after paying with the unstable and having troubles, so I did a fresh install with this iso.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by NoWorries View Post
                            I find this very puzzling as when I enter the command that you did, I get
                            Code:
                            :~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep neon
                            # deb cdrom:[neon devstable _Xenial_ - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 20161005-10:56]/ xenial universe restricted multiverse main
                            I also have the following from Synaptic Repositories

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]6794[/ATTACH]

                            This shows that I am using the Stable option. I have two laptops which behave in the same way and I used:

                            http://files.kde.org/neon/images/neo...1047-amd64.iso

                            To install neon. I did this after paying with the unstable and having troubles, so I did a fresh install with this iso.
                            O you have backports turned on .

                            so "grep" seams to have stopped at the first one (neon) it found ,but should not have,,,,,,, or it's in sources.list.d .

                            synaptic dose not have it's own Repositories ,,,,but is showing the combined reading of /etc/apt/sources.list and the content of /ext/apt/sources.list.d

                            what caught my eye was that your Neon source line reads "deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/dev/stable/ xenial main" and mine
                            "deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/stable/ xenial main" but resolve to the same place.

                            VINNY
                            i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
                            16GB RAM
                            Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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                              #29
                              Thanks for your insight into my problem. I did uncheck the backports option and edited the neon.list file to be the same as yours but those changes made no difference.

                              I am beginning to wonder if the damage done by having the backports enabled is the reason for my problems. If so, does this mean a re-install to fix this problem?

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                                #30
                                Just completed a re-install on the Laptop used by my Wife and it still has the same problem as before with broken packages.

                                So the problem can be in one of two places,
                                1. package errors or,
                                2. something amiss in the hidden directories in my home partition.


                                I am reminded by a posting by Wizard, ie

                                Originally posted by wizard10000 View Post
                                I would suggest just waiting. I've seen pretty much the same thing in Debian Unstable for the last couple of days except that my installation also offers to remove dolphin.

                                Let it go for a couple more days or until apt stops offering to remove half your system
                                So how long to wait?
                                Last edited by NoWorries; Nov 06, 2016, 09:05 PM.

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