[SOLVED] HELP!!! Broken System-Lost on How to Fix! The particulars in the post.

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

@ MoonRise

Perhaps you want keep a backup of ~.kde4 until kde4 is sufficiently stable. Having said that, your experience is odd - did you really delete/move ~.kde4?

Did that (backed it up) and Yep, I really deleted it. It was fairly stable for me until these new packages were released. Had I known there were issues with them I wouldn't have said - " Yes, Update please". That grin went a way fast.

see what happens when you do a dpkg-reconfigure kdm

Yep, good idea -- I'm gonna give that a shot tonight. Thanks!

I'll try that again myself and see. Who knows. What is weird is I can see the splash and it automatically pops up a konsole window. No other Plasma thingies and no windows decorations (for apps I can get to run). Some apps work from konsole so I'm able to do a few things, but it's all command line driven. Not very efficient. Oh yes, the keyboard doesn't work in some areas. Like if I open adeptmanager (from konsole), I can't input anything in the Filter field. But the mouse works great !

[dibl]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

@Moon, regarding the stripped windows, did you try

kwin --replace

in the Konsole? If that doesn't work, there's a related command --- maybe "kdewin --replace"?

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

@Moon, regarding the stripped windows, did you try

kwin --replace

in the Konsole? If that doesn't work, there's a related command --- maybe "kdewin --replace"?

Yep tried that as well. Got the message that it wasn't installed, although I verified it was. Same for plasma.

[toad]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does kwin do?

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does kwin do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KWin

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Well. I was able to start Kwin. Reconfiguring KDM to KDM-KDE4 didn't do a thing but place the ugly default Login Splash back in place of my custom one. Since I was able to start Kwin and finally move windows around (again everything I want to run must be from konsole), I decided to start Compiz. It works as well, even the cube. What appears to not work is Plasma. Isn't that what controls the Desktop and Panel? This is really ridiculous. I'll leave it like this for a week and see what happens.This truly sucks!

[dibl]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Yep. I just did:

1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm and chose KDE4

2. sudo envyng -t and uninstalled the Nvidia driver

3. installed the Nvidia driver

4. Rebooted and logged in to KDE4

As far as I can tell, no change. It did auto-start Compiz -- I guess that's something. I have no idea whether it is kdm or kdm-kde4 running the display -- kinda afraid to check ....

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Do you know where Plasma is installed? If I knew the path to it, I might be able to get that running. Also, what is the name of the program that displays what services and all are running?

[dibl]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Mah -- I'm on my Eee PC at the moment, sitting on the patio sipping wine and watching the sunset. I'll have to get back to you on Plasma.

top

will show you the running processes, or Ksysguard if you want it in GUI.

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Thanks! I was also able to verify what version of KDE4.1 I'm running. It does report as Beta2, but boy! did it mess up this time around.

[dibl]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

According to Ksysguard, I'm running on kdm. Although there are quite a few KDE4 processes, including kded4 and kdeinit4.

Now, here's something interesting. I came back in to see how tonight's updates ran, and Adept Manager had an "unable to complete" error message for me. So in Konsole I ran sudo apt-get update, and got this:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:      
 kdebase-runtime: Depends: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (= 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa6) but 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5 is installed                                         
 kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) but 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa13 is installed                                       
 libplasma2: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) but 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa13 is installed                                            
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

So I did. sudo apt-get -f install produced this:

Reading package lists... Done                                       
Building dependency tree                                          
Reading state information... Done                                     
Correcting dependencies... Done                                      
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:              
 libwxbase2.6-0 m4 libiso9660-5 libnotify1 libdvbpsi4 libcdio7 libxosd2 libvlc0 libsdl-image1.2      
 libwxgtk2.6-0 libmatroska0 helix-player liba52-0.7.4 libdvdread3 libdc1394-13 libavformat1d libid3tag0  
 libtar libvcdinfo0 libebml0 libmpeg2-4                                  
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.                                  
The following extra packages will be installed:                              
 kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-workspace-data                       
Suggested packages:                                            
 kdebase-workspace-wallpapers                                       
The following packages will be upgraded:                                  
 kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-workspace-data                       
3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.                       
53 not fully installed or removed.                                     
Need to get 0B/10.5MB of archives.                                     
After this operation, 4067kB of additional disk space will be used.                    
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y                                      
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!                          
 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace-data                       
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y                            
(Reading database ... 130920 files and directories currently installed.)                  
Preparing to replace kdebase-runtime-data 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa6 (using .../kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5_all.deb) ...                                  
Unpacking replacement kdebase-runtime-data ...                               
Preparing to replace kdebase-runtime 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa6 (using .../kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5_amd64.deb) ...                                      
Unpacking replacement kdebase-runtime ...                                 
Preparing to replace kdebase-workspace-data 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa13 (using .../kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7_all.deb) ...                               
Unpacking replacement kdebase-workspace-data ...                              
Setting up kde-icons-oxygen (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5) ...                      
Setting up kdebase-runtime-data (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5) ...                    
Setting up kdelibs5-data (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa14) ...                       
Setting up libglib2.0-0 (2.16.3-1ubuntu3) ...                               

Setting up kdebase-workspace-data (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up kdepimlibs-data (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa3) ...
Setting up libakonadiprivate0 (0.82.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...

Setting up kdeartwork-theme-window-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2) ...
Setting up kdebase-data-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5) ...     
Setting up phonon-backend-gstreamer (4:4.2~svn820171+4.1.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...
Setting up phonon (4:4.2~svn820171+4.1.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...         
Setting up libphonon4 (4:4.2~svn820171+4.1.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...       

Setting up kde4libs-bin (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa14) ...
Setting up kdelibs5 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa14) ...  

Setting up kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5) ...
Setting up kdebase-runtime (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5) ...    

Setting up libkonq5 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa4) ...

Setting up dolphin-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa4) ...

Setting up dragonplayer (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...

Setting up juk-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up kcron-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up knetworkconf-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up kpackage-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...  

Setting up ksystemlog-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up kdepimlibs5 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa3) ...

Setting up kuser-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up kdeadmin-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up libkcddb4-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...

Setting up kdemultimedia-kio-plugins-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...

Setting up kmix-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...

Setting up kscd-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up kdemultimedia-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1) ...
Setting up kdm-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up khelpcenter-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5) ...
Setting up klipper-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...
Setting up konqueror-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa4) ...

Setting up konqueror-nsplugins-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa4) ...
Setting up konsole-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa4) ...
Setting up kopete-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...

Setting up kppp-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...

Setting up krdc-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...
Setting up krfb-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ...
Setting up libkdecorations4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up libkwineffects1 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up systemsettings-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...
Setting up libkipi5 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa2) ...

Setting up gwenview-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa2) ...

Setting up kamera-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa2) ...
Setting up ksnapshot-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa2) ...

Setting up libokularcore1-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa2) ...

Setting up okular-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa2) ...

Setting up libplasma2 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up kate-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2) ...

Setting up kdebase-workspace-bin (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Setting up ksysguard-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa7) ...

Processing triggers for libc6 ...

Guess I've got some testing to do now .....beginning with a restart of KDE. :P

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

That's exactly what happened to me.

I sure hope you don't have the same issue.

[dibl]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Well, there's more. Upon restarting the system and running "Fetch" with Adept Manager, the "Dist. Upgrade" light came on, so there were another half-dozen package upgrades showing, including one for "dolphin-kde4". I got all excited and ran the upgrade, and restarted KDE. Matter of fact, I first got out of X and decided to go all out and nuked the ~/.kde4 folder, so I could get a clean start with the new & improved KDE4 stuff.

Upon logging in to KDE4, I saw an interesting new monochrome splash screen while the "trinket parade" ran, and then the clean KDE4 desktop. Compiz started automatically -- that was cool! So I opened Dolphin (KDE4) and right-clicked on the white space, and ....

yep ...

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Dolphin (dolphin) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error, documents that were loaded, etc.

right.

And no Alt-F2.

So, I'm putting my apps on the panel again, and pretending I don't need Alt-F2 nor any cutting or pasting events in Dolphin, and I guess we'll see what the coming days bring.

[MoonRise]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

At least it left you with a Panel and a Desktop! I'm limping right now, but I'll survive.

[Fintan]

Re: HELP!!! Broken System - Lost on How to Fix!!! The particulars in the post.

Hey guys

My kde4's are running more or less nicely.

The debian and the intrepid versions are the best.
alt+f2 and proper kdesudo commands without the full path and without "command not found".

Having rubbed that in a bit when I read this:

What appears to not work is Plasma. Isn't that what controls the Desktop and Panel?

from moon just now I figured it may be something like this:

Now, here's something interesting. I came back in to see how tonight's updates ran, and Adept Manager had an "unable to complete" error message for me. So in Konsole I ran sudo apt-get update, and got this:

I had something similar yesterday and I think that it had to do with the "fact" that some packages were 4.0.80 some 4.0.82 and some 4.0.83.

To sort the kdesudo issue I did this (idea from rog) a few days ago:

sudo mv /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu_original

and

sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu

which worked.

For my own reasons I decided to do a clean install of HH remix and upgrade to beta2 this morning.

Got just about the same as you guys. It was eventually fixed (more or less) by doing what dible did.

What didn't get fixed was:
my functioning synaptic from yesterday is borked again.
kdesudo does not work as it should and the above linking gives me:
"kdesu cannot be found" :P

maybe the path to kdesu has changed? :P

On the up side samba shares are working again

Anyway there seems to be a little bit of work left here and I am still lovin' it