For a better Linux

[MepisReign]

Re: For a better Linux

Well, all I have to say is that comparing Linux today with Linux 5 years ago today's Linux is a completely different thing, no matter what distro. "People will come" and in greater numbers. Now, we, the end users are able to do things (video editing, gaming, etc) that were virtually impossible some years ago. All that Linux needs is a little "push". And as I tested if the end user has everything "pre"installed the command line use will be minimum. I installed Kubuntu on my brother's in law portable and as he states it is easier for him than Windoze since everything just worked right away. Sorry for my limited explanation about my point of view but it's a little difficult to express myself correctly in a different language.

Regards,

MepisReign

[Coccolino]

Re: For a better Linux

the USB support was a revolution.
now we need a video driver full compatibility, a nooby have trouble with ATI and games, resolve it and linux is better then win2000/XP.
with this u gain all the ati users, personally i have problems with ati drivers, i resolve it with mesa drivers but a nooby is lost in the ocean.

[gregb49]

Re: For a better Linux

now we need a video driver ...........

Also improved support for peripherals, eg printers, scanners and some other common devices, but this is probably reliant on manufacturers providing this support. When one manufacturer gets a reputation for supporting, at least, K/UBUNTU and thus gains a marketing edge, maybe others will begin to follow. Greg

[Dillinger1969]

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I realize this thread is a little old but I just want to add my 2 cent's worth. First let me say that I've been using Kubuntu for over a year and haven't had to go back to windows for about 10 months or so, but I am a quick learner.
I agree that Linux needs to be more user friendly then it is now, at least from a average home users stand point. CLI is more powerful but a lot more confusing then GUI for most people.Unless you have reference books or many many years experience the average home user will not be able to know the correct syntax for the commands, just to do common tasks. In the home users world it is a lot easier to understand " click a button this happens " then to type a whole sentence in term. just to do something with a file. And if that file is 6 or 7 folders into your directory forget it.
IMO Linux has too many distros with too many flavors of desktops, "for a better Linux" , Linux itself needs to be made more universal. The average home user is not going to want to wade threw a dozen or more distro specific versions of the same program just to use it. I can't count the times I read about some new program only to find out that if I want it I will have to compile it. Well there goes your average home user right back to windows. It took me a month just to get my printer working. With all of Linux's advantages it should be the OS of choice, but IMO it still has a way to go to gain popularity it the home user market.

[kevinc]

Re: For a better Linux

What makes Linux so much better than any other OS is that it is open source with a wider base of people developing it, maintaining it and discussing how to improve it.

I think that as this world is moving at an increasingly rapid pace in information technology and more people at a younger age are becoming computer literate, Linux is a solution or an answer to what more and more people are looking for.

People are tired of Microsoft, the bugs, the updates, the costs and the problems. Unfortunately, for business users, there is a large base that more or less demands businesses have it, 'because everyone else does', not that it is the best product.

As more people and businesses use Linux, I believe that Linux share of the market will increase each year and perhaps at an exponential rate. Anyone done calculations on the growth of Kubuntu over the last five years, for example?

I bought this computer, a HP Compaq nc6400 two years ago - the windows xp directory for software setup was 3GB. I have installed Kubuntu 6.06, 7.04, 7.10 and now 8.04 and am amazed at how well the hardware including ATI x1300 works.

Each version of Kubuntu is a big step forward and will surely bring more people to use Linux.

[gamer64]

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I have to say, as a completely new user to linux, I'm really impressed by how good it is. i have never really dipped my toe out of the windows waters, except for a brief period where i used DOS. Having gained a lot of experience in DOS, and i can easily manage my way about it, i don't find using the underlying architecture of Linux that hard to manoeuvre. Of course, like any new OS, it does take a bit of getting used to, but the overall workings of linux i found to be not much different to the likes of old windows versions, lie windows 98, which ran on dos. Obviously, DOS and UNIX have differences, but overall, it's not a big leap for me.

However, for the average Joe of the computing world, who has little PC knowledge, and is used to the PC monopolisation that is Windows, this is. For example, the amounts of problems I have had with Linux lately, such as the sound, and setting the printer up, would put most PC users off. another thing would be installing new programs. Now, searching for these searching for these using adept is all well and dandy, but if it's not there, and you download it from the internet, than it's quite a bit of a challenge installing from the source code.

If there was a way to install things GUI way, then it may attract some more people, and make our lives easier.

[Guest]

Re: For a better Linux

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A short documentation. I think that the handbooks must be presented shortened to the strictly essentials and to a really understandable language.
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I think also Illustrations are real helpful, when I'm told to click on the "adminstrator mode" button, give me a picture of that button, so I can see which one it is!

[aged hippy]

Re: For a better Linux

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A short documentation. I think that the handbooks must be presented shortened to the strictly essentials and to a really understandable language.
unquote

I think also Illustrations are real helpful, when I'm told to click on the "adminstrator mode" button, give me a picture of that button, so I can see which one it is!

I usually find that it's the button with "Administrator Mode" written on it.

[Nakrull]

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Well the point u all propose are realy mind opening
Im a new linux user used windoze since i was 12 years old
and switshed to kubuntu in no time but...
Here is kubuntus mayor drawback from windowze DIRECT X
i know directx is copirighted for microsoft but i cant figure out why in hell linux didnt make some kind of version for it!!!

i know that most of u work with ur pc but i wouldnt use a pc i couldnt game with it
so the big problem is there is no gaming suport for linux the mayor companies dont care becouse linux is a mess for gaming engines
example starcraft
starcraft is a 11 jear old game but just now its runing natively on linux and the engine is a mess and not complete

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3082710.0

and yes i know u can us wine or cedega but why would i emulate a game if i could run it native on win
so that the reason why in the two years i use linux i dint completly switsh over
gamers only use vista (not me) becouse of the directx 10 they dont care about the eye candy they turn it off to save some system resources and game at maximum
gamers would use the console so they dont waste resources
i would kill for a kernel that only runs games so i could save resources

and that my opinion as the so mentioned john doe

hail kibuntu long live linux

[BatsSeva73]

For a better Linux

I tried to install 5 different games today in wine and none worked. They all installed except age of empires 3 but I couldnt run any of them.
Vista is designed for better hardware than XP so of course it takes up more space and needs better hardware. Just like a windows 98 pc and trying to put xp on that.

[askrieger]

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@BatsSeva73: 2 words--DUAL BOOT. So far, M$ has not released an OS modification that seeks out a Linux distro on your PC and refuses to open anything until you remove Linux. (Although upgrading windoze may destroy your Linux partition).

Yes, despite the best efforts of the WINE people, some (many?) games run better in windoze than they do on Linux, because the game developers use "special tricks", like a few judicious lines of assembly code that take advantage particular windoze quirks. They learn these tricks by paying a fee to join the "MS Developer Network" (at least, that was what it was called in my day) for "inside information" over and above what mere mortals get by BUYING M$ compilers.

Of course, the relative number of Linux users is so much smaller than the number of windoze users that very few commercial game developers can afford to generate Linux editions of their software.