[SOLVED-ish...]Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

[14tjoyce]

I just updated my desktop computer to KDE 4.5 after having it run flawlessly on my laptop. After I rebooted and logged into the desktop I got a Crash Handler box about krunner, so I just closed it. But then theres another and another and it just kept going to what must have been a couple hundred of them. And every time I reboot the same thing happens. After a while though the errors stop, and I just close them and then the computer works as normal, with no other problems at all. Is there some way I can disable krunner? I don't use it very much, if at all, and if I could just uninstall it or disable it on startup that would be great. Thanks!

[askrieger]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Personally, I'd just wait a while, (and install software updates faithfully). KDE 4.5 is still evolving. I'm sure that either, your problem will be solved before Maverick is released (the most likely outcome), or the Maverick release date will be deferred to the end of October, (where it should be).

[Fintan]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Although I am not getting this, there seems to be a bug:
http://osdir.com/ml/plasma-bugs/2010-08/msg00758.html

Are you using maveric (alpha!!) or did you upgrade lucid to 4.5?

You could try and set up a second (new) user and see if you get this issue with the new user as well.

Hope this is useful

[14tjoyce]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

I am definitely not using Maverick lol, I did upgrade Lucid to 4.5. The thing that confuses me is that this does not happen on my laptop which is also Lucid with KDE 4.5. I'm going to try the new user thing when I get home tonight

[Fintan]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

The thing that confuses me is that this does not happen on my laptop which is also Lucid with KDE 4.5.

This could be due to a corruption in your .kde (hidden folder) respt. the krunner config file.

That is why I suggested trying a new user.

You might also consider renaming krunnerrc in:
/home/yourusername/.kde/share/config/

to krunnerrcOld and restarting krunner.

[14tjoyce]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Ok, it changed nothing when I removed the "krunnerrc" file, and using a new user changed nothing either. At the moment I'm just using fluxbox lol.

[Fintan]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

HMMM... oh well the only thing I can think of is that some how your kdebase-workspace-bin got messed up during upgrade.

If you new user shows the same it is not .kde, so no point in renaming that.

kdebase-workspace-bin is part of, amongst others your kde-plasma-desktop and kubuntu-desktop.

So purging kdebase-workspace-bin will also uninstall kde-plasma-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and a few others.If you are adventurous enough I would suggest the following:
- boot into recovery mode (that is your second option in your grub boot manager at boot)

- when the screen shows a list of choices on a gray background choose "netroot".

- at the root prompt type the following:

apt-get purge kdebase-workspace-bin

at the next prompt choose yes (y)

Now wait a while until the purging has finished.

- when that is finished type:

apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

When that has finished (could take a while)
do:

apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin

Note: Your screen should show that kdebase-workspace-bin is already installed so this step should not be needed as kubuntu-desktop will pull that in when installing.
But it is an easy step to check if it was installed.

When all is done reboot and hopefully you will have a normal krunner.

[14tjoyce]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

I tried that... And it changed nothing. It seemed that it just re-used the pre-existing packages when it re-installed kubuntu-desktop. It didn't download anything and the whole process took maybe 3 minutes. Is it possible that the packages may have become corrupted in the initial upgrade? Because when I was upgrading I had to

sudo apt-get -f

and

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

repeatedly to make it finish, and I never had to do that on my laptop...

[Fintan]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Is it possible that the packages may have become corrupted in the initial upgrade? Because when I was upgrading I had to ....

yes.

Okay, lets take this step at a time, what does it tell you when you do:

apt-get purge kdebase-workspace-bin

?

[14tjoyce]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

root@Tom-Desktop:/home/tom# apt-get purge kdebase-workspace-bin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree    
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
 systemsettings kdebase-workspace-data
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 kdebase-workspace-bin* kubuntu-desktop*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 10.9MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

[Fintan]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

I am no expert but try doing:

apt-get clean

after the purge.

This should clean out the archives.

Then install kubuntu-desktop again as noted above.

[Snowhog]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Why are you trying to remove/purge kdebase-workspace-bin!?

Description: core binaries for the KDE 4 base workspace module
This package contains miscellaneous programs needed for a basic KDE 4 desktop
installation. Among other standard KDE 4 desktop components, the package
provides startkde scripts, ksmserver (the KDE 4 session manager) and the main
Plasma shell, which manages most KDE 4 visual user interface components. This
package is essential to start and use KDE 4 Desktop Environment.
.
This package is part of the KDE 4 base workspace module.

[14tjoyce]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Just tried the

apt-get clear

thing and it didn't change anything... Is there a way I can just remove everything KDE related from my system and then just re-install it fresh?

[14tjoyce]

Re: Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Ok, I just kinda got impatient, and went and did a clean install from a different disk. I haven't had a single problem since. KDE 4.5.0 and not a thing is wrong. So I'm now just thinking that I just botched up the upgrade or maybe had a bad disk lol. Thanks for the help anyways!

[GreyGeek]

Re: [SOLVED-ish...]Krunner startup crash (KDE 4.5.0)

Bad Burns -- the number #1 reason why an installation has problems.