KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

[Snowhog]

I'd like to hear from those who have upgraded, what their observations/opinions are on whether they (now) think it was a good idea to upgrade. I've added the repository, but don't have it 'activated' yet. My KDE 4.4.5 is very stable, and stability is more important to me than the 'latest and greatest' in KDE.

[budr]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

I upgraded from 4.4.2 this afternoon. The upgrade went without incident. The only problem I ran into was kmail didn't start. I got the missing library error described in this thread on kde forums.

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=89568

Following Oceanwather's tip I installed libakonadi-contact4 and libkontactinterface4 and that fixed kmail. I've been puttering around in 4.5 for maybe 5 hours now, and that's the only problem I've encountered so far.

As always, YMMV...

[vinnywright]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

it's not to bad but still a bit bugey for me.........I would acualey like to have 4.4.5 back .....but hay hear I am........and it's usable but not to 4.4.5's standerd's.....

VINNY

[Snowhog]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

I'll take your commentary as good advice. I'll hold off on upgrading for awhile. Let 4.5.0 'mature' a bit, like a fine cheese, before executing the upgrade.

[NoWorries]

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I have just added KDE 4.5 on the PC used by my wife and my first impression is that it is working well and is very responsive.

The only problem encountered so far is that the Weather Forecast widget does not work and has a red box with a black X. I also have a folder view on the desktop and when I place a cursor over a folder, there is a "+" on the upper left of the folder icon and an "up arrow" on the lower left. I am wondering if anyone knows what is the purpose of the "+" which changes to a "-" when clicked. When the "up arrow" is clicked it then shows the contents of the folder. I am a little surprised that the "up arrow" is on the lower left rather than the upper left of the folder icon. I guess that this is a case of personal preference.

I do not plan to install KDE 4.5 on my laptop until the Weather Forecast widget works as I use this often to see the weather being experienced by members of our family who are overseas. I am also patiently waiting for the latest version of Kaffeine to be ported to Kubuntu. According to http://kaffeine.kde.org/ it was released on Mon, 05/31/2010 - 19:50. I am wondering what is causing the delay.

Keep up the good work,

NoWorries

Thanks guys for all the useful tips. I have now got the Weather working. I found it rather odd that when I upgraded from 4.4.5 to 4.5, I had to do it in two stages. After completing the first update/dist-upgrade, I had errors which I fixed with

sudo dpkg --configure -a
sudo apt-get install -f

I then rebooted and I found that applications were showing KDE 4.4.5. I then did a second

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

After the second reboot all the desktop icons changed and I definitely had KDE4.5.

I must say it is a great improvement and I now have KDE 4.5 on all my networked computers!!!!

NoWorries

[14tjoyce]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

I installed it on my laptop a while back when it was in the "stupid unstable" state and at that point it was pretty bad. But now it's very good. I encounter almost no bugs and it has some neat new features and stuff. All-in-all I like it very much, and use it on the computers I use most, and I experience only the very rare problem. Got to love KDE!!!!

[Rog131]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

About KDE

It's idea is to release often with repeated cycles of improvement.


Rule of thumb

If you want stable don't use the .0-versions


About Kaffeine

...I am also patiently waiting for the latest version of Kaffeine to be ported to Kubuntu. According to http://kaffeine.kde.org/ it was released on Mon, 05/31/2010 - 19:50. I am wondering what is causing the delay....

Repositories > FAQ: Repositories
For the Maverick > [ubuntu/maverick] kaffeine 1.0-1ubuntu1 (Accepted)
How backporting is working > UbuntuBackports
A request/wish > Please backport kaffeine
If you don't want to compile or wait > Show PPAs matching: kaffeine

(Kaffeine and Maverick > Topic: Maverick - KDEPIM/Video player/font/browser/...)

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

So far KDE4.5 has been good to me.

I use yawp for weather and that is working fine, although sometimes it "forgets" weather icons (rainy, thunderstorm, etc..

I am not worried about kontact at the moment. will wait for kmail.2.0 (kde4.5.1?) and google resouces to start behaving correctly.

TB with lightning, contact sidebar and google add-ons works just fine for email, syncing calendars and contacts

KDM still does not remember user names but I know mine

@Noworries:

I also have a folder view on the desktop and when I place a cursor over a folder, there is a "+" on the upper left of the folder icon and an "up arrow" on the lower left. I am wondering if anyone knows what is the purpose of the "+" which changes to a "-" when clicked.

Clicking on the "+" marks a folder / file for cutting / copying / moving / removal / deleting. This way you can mark several folders / files.

[kubicle]

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KDM still does not remember user names but I know mine

Did you try what I suggested here:
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...6491#msg236491

[Fintan]

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Thank you kubicle, I forgot about that one

Hmmm...on the other hand:

fintan@fintanws2:~$ sudo chown -r kdm:kdm /var/lib/kdm
[sudo] password for fintan:
chown: invalid option -- 'r'
„chown --help“ gibt weitere Informationen.
fintan@fintanws2:~$

I looked at th help but that was not very enlightening.

[kubicle]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

Thank you kubicle, I forgot about that one

Hmmm...on the other hand:

fintan@fintanws2:~$ sudo chown -r kdm:kdm /var/lib/kdm
[sudo] password for fintan:
chown: invalid option -- 'r'
„chown --help“ gibt weitere Informationen.
fintan@fintanws2:~$

I looked at th help but that was not very enlightening.

Oops, my mistake (I wish they were consistent with the "recursive" option :P):

sudo chown -R kdm:kdm /var/lib/kdm

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

I hear you

I did it the boring way. Opened kdesudo dolphin -</var/lib/kdm and set group permissions to my user name.

Thankx for the tip

[kubicle]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

I did it the boring way. Opened kdesudo dolphin -</var/lib/kdm and set group permissions to my user name.

And that worked? I'm stunned

There are a couple of things that seem a tad odd:
1. The key file is /var/lib/kdm/kdmsts, which needs to be rw for kdm
2. For that file, group ownership should make no difference (as it is only rw for owner, no permissions for group)
3. kdm runs under user "kdm" which probably doesn't belong to your "user group", so group ownership change to your user shouldn't have much effect

Go figure.

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5.0 - upgrade now or wait?

I can't tell you why, it just works

I wasn't sure, just wanted to try something and no kdm is not in my groups

[MoonRise]

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....

I use yawp for weather and that is working fine, although sometimes it "forgets" weather icons (rainy, thunderstorm, etc..

....

Same here. I've also have noticed I no longer have Plymouth when shutting down just the CLI showing what it is doing while shutting down. I have noticed shut down was faster but don't know if it is because of no splash. Also Plymouth @ startup is clunky. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but I do always get to the Log In screen. Everything else seems great!