[solved, sort of]Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

[Fintan]

Ever since I upgraded my Lucid to KDE4.5RC2 and my Maverick went to RC2 plymouth is not showing any any of my machines.

All I get is a black screen with a horizontal blinking icon which then goes over to KDM.

Plymouth only raises it head when fdsk is checking partitions.

I have a customized plymouth-blanco on lucid, correctly configured and not changed since.
I have the default plymouth on Maverick, nothing changed or edited.

Anyone else seeing this?

[The Liquidator]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

I'm running 4.5 RC2 on lucid.

I very rarely see plymouth on startup, ever since kubuntu has used it. It seems I only generally see Plymouth when it does a disk check, as you have noted. Most of the time I get the blinking icon until I see the kde splash screen (I'm using auto login).

On shutdown, since upgrading to 4.5rc2 I get a 1 note ping - the shutdown tune seems to have been removed no big deal- then some text showing the services that are shutting down then most of the times plymouth for a couple of seconds then it has shutdown. The entire process seems to take no more than 8 seconds and I expect that the whole process is too quick for plymouth to load.

I don't have any real issues with blinking icons and text messages on shutdown. However it does rather give it that "unfinished" look - I don't know what impression that gives to a newcomer

[Fintan]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

On shutdown, since upgrading to 4.5rc2 I get a 1 note ping - the shutdown tune seems to have been removed no big deal- then some text showing the services that are shutting down then most of the times plymouth for a couple of seconds then it has shutdown. The entire process seems to take no more than 8 seconds and I expect that the whole process is too quick for plymouth to load.

Yep, here as well. I don't know about the time it takes plymouth to load but yes it does look a bit unfinished.

Edit:
I didn't time this with a Longines Olympian stop watch but my machine takes a good 20s to boot up. I find it hard to believe that plymouth takes that long to find its "rock"

[sixonetonoffun]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Same here it worked with default then I added a xsplash and it would just blip for a second or so go black then load the custom xsplashy which annoyed me a little so I modded a plymouth splash to my background and set it up as default but it fails to load at all as far as I can tell.

No biggie might be my plymouth theme think I'd switch it back to the original but seems to load faster without it.

No error log but that seems to be a known plymouth issue.

I'm running a lamp setup so boot times a little longer anyway.

::Shrug::

[The Liquidator]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

I didn't time this with a Longines Olympian stop watch but my machine takes a good 20s to boot up. I find it hard to believe that plymouth takes that long to find its "rock"

I'm not sure what is causing it tbh. On my laptop Kubuntu loads pretty quickly (roughly 20 seconds to the KDE splash - possibly a bit less). However, my wifes acer netbook loads plymouth almost immediately after the bios post running UNR, so it looks like a kubuntu-only problem ("Another" I hear you shout )

[Fintan]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Well, I think there is something seriously wrong with plymouth and kde4.5 (kubuntu?)

Now, I cannot even boot into lucid, neither normally nor in recovery.
I have to hard shutdown, which this rig really does not like

[Fintan]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Okay now lucid halts with:

init:ureadahead-other main process (759)

terminated with status 4[/quote]

google gives nothing intelligent.
Any one?

[dibl]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

My total experience installing Kubuntu 10.04 is on my desktop rig, so I only have the one data point. But I must say booting has been less than 100% reliable. The "failure mode" is not entirely consistent, either, but it seems to be related to things that go on behind the Plymouth splash screen, including fscks that just go on into oblivion and never reach a conclusion, such that booting can continue. I deleted the "splash" option and that seems to have helped -- lately it's been more reliable.

[The Liquidator]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

I don't know whether you have seen this

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ad/+bug/484677

seems rather a lot of things that could be going wrong here

Good luck.

[Fintan]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

@Liquidator: Yeah I saw that, not very helpful but informative.

@dible: How did you remove the "splash"?
By editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg or by editing a file in /etc/grub.d?

I am reluctant to mess with the cfg file and I am not sure where to look in grub.d

[kubicle]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

@dible: How did you remove the "splash"?
By editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg or by editing a file in /etc/grub.d?

Editing grub.cfg is rather pointless, since you'll lose the modifications over kernel updates.
Edit the value "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" in /etc/default/grub (remove "splash"), and run 'sudo update-grub' to apply the changes.

[Fintan]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Editing grub.cfg is rather pointless, since you'll lose the modifications over kernel updates.

That is why I didn't want to do it

Thank you for the rest

[dibl]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Edit the value "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" in /etc/default/grub (remove "splash"), and run 'sudo update-grub' to apply the changes.

Yes, that's the right way to do it.

[sixonetonoffun]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Slightly off topic but can ureadahead be uninstalled safely? I'd rather have Preload functioning anyway and I'd bet that ureadahead is the culpurt borking Preload.

[kubicle]

Re: Plymouth and KDE4.5 RC2

Slightly off topic but can ureadahead be uninstalled safely?

Yes, it can be uninstalled if you have issues with it. It will remove ubuntu-minimal package, but that's just a metapackage.