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    activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

    Hi, couple issues here I'm pretty sure can be remedied with some help.

    Yesterday I installed 10.4 Kubuntu off Live CD, seemed okay up to now, aside from themes quirk. I'm running 2.8ghz P4, 1gb RAM, nvidia 6200 (256 mb). I'd been, for several years using Linux Mint with little to no trouble, but wanted something a bit more committed to later KDE.

    1) Activated the "recommended" nvidia drivers for my nvidia 6200 card this morning. Now after enabling desktop effects, lost desktop background, just turned a blase grey.

    2) Tried to reset desktop background, but "system settings" is blank, no matter whether I select treeview or whatever. In fact, *unless* I select tree view, it is completely blank. With tree view I still get a nice looking graphical front end, but when I select, say, "Look and Feel," the selected menu tree is to the left, but blank, dark grey area to right pane. There are these messages in the right pane - "The module Notifications is not a valid configuration module." Then down nearer the bottom of the relative pane is, "The diagnosis is: The desktop file settings-notifications.desktop does not specify a library."

    3) I tried to remove the previously activated proprietary nvidia driver, accessed through kpackageKit, and it seems to begin but parks there forever and doesn't remove it.

    4) I received a notice about almost 550 updates, and when I tried to use KPackageKit to upate (or to install ANY software) I get the following "Dependency resolution failed - KPackageKit" error message: (top) "A package dependency could not be found. More information is available in the detailed report." Checking details I see, "There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation."

    Prior to this, I'd tried to get themes, installed one, shows now as selectable from within the "get themes" applet only to "uninstall." However, couldn't see it in pick list within system settings. checked ~./kde/share/apps/desktoptheme, and it wasn't there. So I manually unpacked theme to that dir. It's there, but never showed up in the pick list. Got theme from kdelook.org. That's not a biggie, but I'd still like it to show as it should/ought.

    *That's* when I chose to activate proprietary driver, which looked procedurally identical to what I'd done with several versions of mint, successfully. That's when things turned mildly south.

    As I say, I'm pretty certain that these things can be resolved, and my data's already been long ago backed up. So if I had to, I could just trash the install and start over. But on a mobile broadband connection, I would rather not go through sys updates and such all over again, and don't foresee needing to. I'm optimistic.

    Thanks in advance for any/all assistance.

    Cheers,
    Rene (Note: that's masculine.)

    #2
    Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

    As 'pretty' as KPackageKit is.... it's not exactly complete and in many cases can be a huge pain in the ass.

    Open Konsole (or go to the command-line however you would)

    type:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    It should tell you something along the lines of "200 packages will be upgraded, 20 will be newly installed, and 4 will be removed... Continue [Y/N]?" (a random example obviously) as well as list all the packages in their relevant category. Answer yes ('y' then enter).

    If you end up with an Error message, something like "unable to install package X due to blah blah" try:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get -f install
    The '-f' tries to correct conflicts with dependencies.

    Personally, after doing such a large update/upgrade (550 packages as you mention), I also do the following:
    Code:
    sudo dpkg --configure -a
    This tends to fix any packages that may be have been installed but, for whatever reason, didn't complete their process.

    Try all of that (might take a while with all those updates) and see if your problems disappear.

    Cheers
    Man by his very nature is dependent on other men.

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      #3
      Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

      Okay, with the first recommended sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

      I get the following (copied from terminal window):

      Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release.gpg
      Ign http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Translation-en_US
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg
      Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main Translation-en_US
      Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/restricted Translation-en_US
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release.gpg
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US
      Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release
      Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/universe Translation-en_US
      Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/restricted Translation-en_US
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Translation-en_US
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/multiverse Translation-en_US
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release.gpg
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Translation-en_US
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/universe Translation-en_US
      Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release
      Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid/partner Packages
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/main Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release
      Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid/partner Sources
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/restricted Packages
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/main Sources
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/restricted Sources
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/universe Packages
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/universe Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/restricted Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/restricted Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Packages
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/multiverse Packages
      Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/multiverse Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/multiverse Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/multiverse Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/main Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/restricted Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/main Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/restricted Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/universe Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/universe Sources
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/multiverse Packages
      Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/multiverse Sources
      Reading package lists... Done
      Reading package lists... Done
      Building dependency tree
      Reading state information... Done
      You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
      The following packages have unmet dependencies:
      kde-zeroconf: Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.4) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkdnssd4 (>= 4:4.4) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.4) but it is not installable
      kdelibs-bin: Depends: libkdecore5 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkdeui5 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkio5 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkjsapi4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkjsembed4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkparts4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkrosscore4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      libplasma3: Depends: libkdecore5 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkdeui5 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkdnssd4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkio5 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libknewstuff3-4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libsolid4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      Depends: libthreadweaver4 (= 4:4.4.3-2) but it is not installable
      plasma-scriptengine-javascript: Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.4.0) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.4) but it is not installable
      Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.4) but it is not installable
      E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
      [end paste]

      Stuck there. Should I try that command as sudo apt-get -f update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
      instead?

      Thanks much for your help!

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        #4
        Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

        About half-way through your copied terminal window:
        "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these."

        So yes, just continue with what I suggested

        Cheers
        Man by his very nature is dependent on other men.

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          #5
          Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

          Can you post your sources.list here for me to download. Had to go back to 9.10 due to sound shuttering and flash not working. And when it was acting up the system would slow down.

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            #6
            Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

            d-oh! Ya know what? I tried that, and mid-way (roughly) I got a msg about kdm being active, and it'd need to stop it, do I want to; so I said yes. big time hang. I couldn't bring it out, just locked on black. I tried to startx at the CLI, but just a cleaner tighter looking CLI was all I got. I may've messed it up of course my own self, but ah well, Linux is kinda fun to break and fix, especially early on.

            Uhhh, so I trashed the install, re-installed, and I'm back here. I'm trying your suggestion/s now BEFORE I try activating the nvidia driver again, while everything is in working order.

            What's up with the themes issue, do you know, ever hearda that? I could open app to install/get new themes, choose one to install, install, no errors, but it didn't show in the pick list. And I didn't see it in the appropriate folder at all. I don't even wanna try to get/install any themes yet, not until this update process runs completely through. But if you have input on the matter before I do, I'd be grateful.

            Again, and as always, thanks a ton for your help!

            Cheers

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              #7
              Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

              Originally posted by dragonfixed
              Can you post your sources.list here for me to download. Had to go back to 9.10 due to sound shuttering and flash not working. And when it was acting up the system would slow down.
              On my laptop, which I consider my 'critical-system', it's just the standard sources.list that comes with the Lucid Lynx (10.04) Kubuntu install, however I did install the ATI proprietary drivers.

              On my desktop, which I use to hack at code and try the bleeding edge of software, I have a bunch of different items in my sources.list but none would be relevant to this topic. Again with proprietary drivers, Nvidia, since I do play a few games through WINE and native Linux OpenGL Games.

              Originally posted by renev
              What's up with the themes issue, do you know, ever hearda that?
              Which theme? Is it available/compatible with 4.4? Did you get it through the "Get New Decorations" button in the "Windows Decorations" system setting menu? Or did you just download a theme through Kde-looks.org or another place?

              Not all themes are compatible with all KDE versions. Even the minor versions. Lately, the structure has been changed quite a bit and, judging by the change in the system settings, there are likely new configuration files that are needed for the latest KDE version for them to be visible in the GUI. I'm not aware of the way to set them through the command line, but I am sure there's a way. I'm also not a big fan of the Oxygen style and much prefer "Plastik" (more colour and easier to visually distinguish between different window items), but to each his/her own

              Cheers

              Man by his very nature is dependent on other men.

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                #8
                Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

                No, got the theme by systems settings applet/look and feel/style/workspace tab.

                On that tab there is a button at bottom "Get New Themes" which takes you to kdelook.org

                I guess I would ASSume that they system would be somewhat intelligent enough to not default me to inapplicable themes, but who knows. So far, after updating per your suggested route, the system seems fine after activating the nvidia drivers again.

                Here again, I'm not totally wild about the two themes that installed default, but now I'm kinda leery. Know wudda mean?

                Cheers

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                  #9
                  Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now | fixed

                  Hi, sorry, I had to look up the info on the theme I was trying to install. It was the sabre-toothed tiger theme. Here is a URL to it from kdelook.org:
                  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php...content=100426

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                    #10
                    Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

                    I tried the theme you posted and, indeed, it didn't work for me either.

                    Just for my own curiosity Rene, let me know the output when you type the following:
                    Code:
                    kde4-config --version
                    This is just a side-note, but is probably relevant to this topic and a lot of topics on here:
                    I consider KDE 4.4 to be very stable.
                    The main problem resides in that the KDE4 series, thus far, has added a great deal of functionality between minor releases and, as a result, has broken a lot of things. In other words, to expect a theme/etc. to migrate flawlessly from 4.0 to 4.1 to 4.2 to 4.3 to 4.4 to 4.5 is crazy at this point in time.

                    Should you blame KDE? Maybe a little... they've changed the way things work. But likely it's an issue of the theme maintainer not keeping up. As far as KDE4 goes... anything that says "KDE 4.x" as what it's compatible of.... I'm a little leery. The "Add theme" window just pulls from KDE-Look so it doesn't always show you what *will* work... which is probably something that should be addressed. Things are changing far too quick in the KDE world... but in many cases they are good changes (even if you need to pull teeth while they're being developed ).

                    Cheers
                    Man by his very nature is dependent on other men.

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                      #11
                      Re: activated "recommended" nvidia driver - problems now

                      Okay, here is the output from the command typed and following:

                      rene@:~$ kde4-config --version
                      Qt: 4.6.2
                      KDE Development Platform: 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)
                      kde4-config: 1.0

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