KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

[Fintan]

On my 10.04 test partition I wanted to test Qt4.7:
http://www.kubuntu.org/news/qt-4.7

But decided to get the whole story so I upgraded to KDE4.5.

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdegraphics-libs-data_4%3a4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_all.deb: Versuche, »/usr/share/kde4/apps/libkexiv2/data/topicset.iptc-subjectcode.xml« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket libkexiv2-8 4

then did this:

power1@fintanws3:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[sudo] password for power1:
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von libkdcraw8:
libkdcraw8 hängt ab von kdegraphics-libs-data (>= 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1); aber:
Paket kdegraphics-libs-data ist nicht installiert.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von libkdcraw8 (--configure):
Abhängigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von kdegraphics-strigi-plugins:
kdegraphics-strigi-plugins hängt ab von libkdcraw8 (>= 4:4.4.1); aber:
Paket libkdcraw8 ist noch nicht konfiguriert.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von kdegraphics-strigi-plugins (--configure):
Abhängigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von libkipi7:
libkipi7 hängt ab von kdegraphics-libs-data (>= 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1); aber:
Paket kdegraphics-libs-data ist nicht installiert.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von libkipi7 (--configure):
Abhängigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von gwenview:
gwenview hängt ab von libkipi7 (>= 4:4.4.1); aber:
Paket libkipi7 ist noch nicht konfiguriert.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von gwenview (--configure):
Abhängigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
libkdcraw8
kdegraphics-strigi-plugins
libkipi7
gwenview

A

sudp apt-get install -f

fixed that:

power1@fintanws3:~$ kde4-config --version
Qt: 4.7.0
KDE Development Platform: 4.4.80 (KDE 4.4.80 (KDE 4.5 Beta1))
kde4-config: 1.0
power1@fintanws3:~$

Gwenview seems to be working nicely.

First impressions:
QT4.7:
very fast, snappy and responsive on this old desktop.

Haven't tried kwin effects yet

KDE4.5:
sytsem settings overhauled with some neat features and better layout.
- harddrive / partition mount / unmount / auto mount (like we used to have in kde3.x.x)
- login manager not usable (no sudo)

Login:
- KDM does not remember username

Desktop:
- fast and "liquid" feeling
- sys tray widgets look good and clean
- quick folder access widget crashes plasma
- network manager in sys tray not showing connection
- adding lancelot to the panel gives klauncher
- Klipper does not minimize to sys tray when opened

Kontact will not open.

Thats all for now

Edit:
running kontact from terminal gave me this:

power1@fintanws3:~$ kontact
kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libkontactinterface.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
power1@fintanws3:~$

Installed libkontactinterface

then:

power1@fintanws3:~$ kontact
kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libakonadi-contact.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
power1@fintanws3:~$

Installed libakonadi-contact

then:

power1@fintanws3:~$ kontact
kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libakonadi-contact.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
power1@fintanws3:~$ kontact
kontact: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkontactprivate.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KSettings10Dispatcher17registerComponentERK14K ComponentDataP7QObjectPKc
<unknown program name>(1893)/: Communication problem with "kontact" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "

Edit2:
Ark from the context menu takes ages (you have to start ark by clicking a compressed file to get it going)

Tabbed windows still only works in oxygin

Kwin effects are fast on this old chip and kwin gives a notice which effects are disabled

[ekeluo]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

How did u get the beta? They haven't announced it on the site yet. Was told they had build dependency errors. More info pls

[SIR_Taco]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

- KDM does not remember username
...
- quick folder access widget crashes plasma
...
Kontact will not open.

Those were the first things I noticed....

I have a bad habit of unconsciously clicking the Quick Folder Access Widget, so Plasma crashes a lot

Just a few more to add though:

Amarok:

phil@PhOeNiXbOx:~$ amarok
amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN15KPluginSelector16staticMetaObjectE

KPackageKit (standalone.... works via System Settings integration):

phil@PhOeNiXbOx:~$ kpackagekit
kpackagekit: symbol lookup error: kpackagekit: undefined symbol: _ZN13KCMultiDialog16staticMetaObjectE

Haven't had the time to figure out a resolution for them yet... but if I have time later today I'll post back

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

NO it is not "official" yet but.......

When you go here:
http://www.kubuntu.org/news/qt-4.7

you will be pointed to the experimental ppa's:
https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-...e/experimental

have a look at the packages in the ppa.

Get the ppa:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental

If you open synaptic and refrech then fins upgradable you will see all the KDE 4.4.80 stuff.

Do this on a test machine. Still a bit buggy (see above)

Hope that helps

@sir taco:

undefined symbol: _xyzzzz

we seem to be getting a lot of those here

[SIR_Taco]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

@sir taco:

undefined symbol: _xyzzzz

we seem to be getting a lot of those here

I gave it a couple symbols of my own when it didn't work


I am thinking that Amarok 2.3.1 beta1 is currently available, and that might fix the problem... so I will give that a shot. I would like to get Kontact working again as well.... that should keep me out of trouble for a little bit anyway

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

I gave it a couple symbols of my own when it didn't work

How did you do that?

I don't use kpackagekit and can live without amarok (for now) but yes kontact would be nice to have back

KDE folder preview on desktop seems to be disabled as well

[SIR_Taco]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

I gave it a couple symbols of my own when it didn't work

How did you do that?

I meant I gave it a select finger or two and some choice words :P

I usually only use PackageKit if I'm not sure what I'm looking for... but even then it's a pain. I'm not too concerned about it not working.

Yes, by default it seems to have kicked out the desktop view settings (and all widgets that were set for that matter).... you just need to put it back with "add widget -> folder view" context menu.

Also, I just finished installing 2.3.1 beta 1 of Amarok and it has the same problem. Seems there are some old and/or missing libraries.

Cheers

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

Yes, by default it seems to have kicked out the desktop view settings (and all widgets that were set for that matter).... you just need to put it back with "add widget -> folder view" context menu.

I know and did that, but the folder previews (when you mouse over a folder in folder view) are gone.
at least they are here.

[SIR_Taco]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

Ah, sorry I misunderstood.

It seems they've changed the behaviour of that a bit. When you hover over a folder in the view there is now an arrow icon (upward pointing) below the + icon.... if you click on that you can navigate through your folder previews as normal.

I would suspect some people were complaining about the previews getting in the way? Not sure.

Cheers

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

I didn't see that. I'll have to go back and check

Edit:
Nope, no arrowshere

[SIR_Taco]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

Hmmm....
Should look something like this:

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

No, but if I click below the + sign (no arrow ) I get the preview pane

[SIR_Taco]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

Fintan:

I think I've figured it out.... I'm using the "Air" Plasma/Desktop theme.... is it possible that you're using a different one?
I switched my theme to Oxygen and the arrow icons are absent, but if you click where they should be it works.

I have a funny feeling that this feature is in the same state as the 'tabbed windows' where some themes support it fine, others not so much.

[Fintan]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

Makes sense. I switched to oxygen. I thought as much but was to lazy.

I'll check it out though just to make sure.

Edit: yep that is the solution

[blackpaw]

Re: KDE 4.5 Beta 1 first impressions

kmail fails to start with

kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN13KCMultiDialog16staticMetaObjectE