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    OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

    I'm not sure whether this is a KDE4 issue, a Hardy Heron issue, a Compiz issue, or maybe just an OOO issue. (Or, maybe it's a dibl issue ........ )

    OK, try this --- with Compiz enabled, open your KDE4 D3lphin, browse to an Open Office text document (the example happens to be a 4-page .rtf format document), and click it to open it. What do you observe during the next 2 minutes?

    Here, the OOO splash (still Ubuntu orange, btw) opens, and then the document opens and displays correctly. On my gkrellm monitor, I see both CPU cores go to 98% - 100%, hear the CPU fan speed up, and the system grinds to a near freeze. I can't imagine dealing with it on hardware any slower than mine, which is pretty fast.

    First, I closed the browser and other windows. Then I closed the document and D3lphin, but the OOO splash screen remains on the screen -- it was underneath the document. CPU cores are still sitting there at 100% and 66 degrees C.

    Then, exercising more patience than I actually have, clicking once every 3 minutes, I get the KDE4 System Monitor open, and observe that the process "oosplash.bin" is using 35% of the resources, and "compiz-real" is using the rest of them. Compiz typically uses only 1% - 2%. So, I manage to kill "oosplash.bin". Instant relief! The CPU cores drop to 2% each, compiz-real is back to 1%, and everything works like it's supposed to.

    Launchpad shows no bugs reported for oosplash.bin -- I don't want to start filing bugs until I can hear from others about this.

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    Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

    Well... I tried to replicate that on my HH/compiz/kde4.

    I got the OOO splash screen to load, dolphin gave a translation error message. The splash stopped loading halfway through then compiz decided it had enough and crashed reverting back to kwin.

    I don't know what it is but I'll try it out again with kwin in enhanced (effects) mode then in GG/kde4/compiz
    HP Pavilion dv6 core i7 (Main)
    4 GB Ram
    Kubuntu 18.10

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      #3
      Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

      This sounds like an issue more with OOo not being able to handle KDE4. Since KDE4 is new, there may be some issues with it and OOo. I have done some things with OOo. I'll check over there and see if there is anything listed there.

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        #4
        Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

        OOO opens up fine in GG/kde4/compiz from dolphin and otherwise. So my guess it is a HH issue. have you tried the same thing in HH/kde3/compiz?

        But then again I have noticed that the GG version of KDE4 is not quite the same is as in HH. Don't know why.

        Edit:
        Okay I tried this:
        HH/Kde3/Compiz: works fine.
        HH/kde4/compiz: opeing OO from the kicker does some extremely strange stuff within the OOO window. Strange grafics rendering etc.
        HP Pavilion dv6 core i7 (Main)
        4 GB Ram
        Kubuntu 18.10

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          #5
          Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

          Nope. Nothing like that at OOo. Must be something with HH or the like as to what Fintan said.

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            Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

            Here, the OOO splash (still Ubuntu orange, btw) opens, and then the document opens and displays correctly. On my gkrellm monitor, I see both CPU cores go to 98% - 100%, hear the CPU fan speed up, and the system grinds to a near freeze. I can't imagine dealing with it on hardware any slower than mine, which is pretty fast.
            That sounds very similar to the problem I was experiencing with CF that turned me back to Kwin's compositing (which is really pretty much awesome in KDE4); CF would run my CPU up to 100%, nonstop - the only way I could fix it was to reboot :P

            Other than that, unless CF's compositing engine is having issues with KDE4's compositing core, I don't know
            Asus G1S-X3:
            Intel Core2 Duo T7500, Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT, 4Gb PC2-5300, 320Gb Hitachi 7k320, Linux ( )

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              Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

              Thanks guys. I think I'm just gonna watch it for awhile. On my Sidux system, I have noticed that sometimes opening a OO file will "strip" the window borders, requiring a right-click on the CF icon and "Reload Window Manager". Of course Kubuntu doesn't have a CF icon, so I guess it's lucky I don't have disappearing window borders here! But there definitely is some kind of contention for resources between OO and CF -- I think that's the heart of this problem. It may well also relate to KDE4 and HH. We'll see what happens as HH matures in the coming weeks.

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                #8
                Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                I have noticed that sometimes opening a OO file will "strip" the window borders,
                This is what I'm experiencing. Even if I just try to open OO Write (or any other) I get border less windows. I have to alt+f4 to close it because if I click on any one of the menu items like "file" the whole thing blinks but no menu to chose from.

                I'm running KDE4 on Gutsy btw with CF.

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                  #9
                  Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                  @Mikimike, here's something to try, that will probably work (assuming you are using Emerald for the window decorator). The next time your borders get stripped, open the Konsole and enter
                  Code:
                  emerald --replace
                  Let me know if that works -- I think the problem is actually some conflict between OO and Emerald, wrt to accessing graphics resources.

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                    #10
                    Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                    I gave it a shot, it reloaded the borders on all the windows, and tried to place one on oo write but it was just there for a moment and then gone again. It's definitely a conflict with CF, but beyond that I'm clueless

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                      #11
                      Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                      Yep. OK, we're probably down to differences between graphics cards/GPUs and such. I noticed that the "emerald --replace" fix worked in GG, before I installed HH. There is a bug report somewhere on OO fighting Compiz window decorations -- that is a known problem, but somewhat different that what I'm observing today. It may be that Integr8e has the right approach. I just haven't fiddled with the new Kwin compositing feature of KDE4. You might want to give that a shot (if you can figure out how ...).

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                        Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                        This is what I'm experiencing. Even if I just try to open OO Write (or any other) I get border less windows. I have to alt+f4 to close it because if I click on any one of the menu items like "file" the whole thing blinks but no menu to chose from.
                        Does this post help you any?
                        Asus G1S-X3:
                        Intel Core2 Duo T7500, Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT, 4Gb PC2-5300, 320Gb Hitachi 7k320, Linux ( )

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                          #13
                          Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                          Thanks intergr8e that did the trick for my missing borders on OO.

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                            #14
                            Re: OOO/Compiz/KDE4 integration issue?

                            OOO works fine in these environements on my machine:
                            PIV 1.7mghz
                            1Gig Ram
                            ATI Radeon 9250 pro with HH/GG default xorg.conf

                            HH/kde4/kwin composite
                            HH/kde3/compiz
                            GG/kde4/compiz
                            GG/kde3/compiz
                            GG/kde4/kwin composite

                            For kwin composite:
                            system settings kde4->desktop->desktop effects->enable In the advanced tab you can set your preferences->apply.

                            This only works with composite capable cards.
                            HP Pavilion dv6 core i7 (Main)
                            4 GB Ram
                            Kubuntu 18.10

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