I know that nobody really cares, but I am going to say it anyway. kubuntu is not ready. It is barely functional. I have been trying. I keep hearing about KDE and its superiority, so I figure I better get on board. I am not to much a noob. I have used opensuse, fedora, ubuntu (the best by far), and played with slackware. Kubuntu does not work, its that simple. I know that there are work arounds for this, and work arounds for that, and you can get the new version here, but my god....should it be that hard?
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Re: kubuntu - my review
Well, a lot of people cares though. Kubuntu is young. It needs time, you are right. But there are good solutions to most of the known problems in this forum, please have a look.
BTW it is the 'most complete' distribution I have ever had. I have a lot of experience with SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and many others, and Kubuntu beats them all at the moment. Let's see what happens after I try Mandriva 2006.
MeMo
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I tend to agree, although not completely. Kubuntu is more of a challange then Ubuntu. Maybe it's because I've become somewhat familar with Ubuntu and my expectations for Kubuntu were parrall with my experience with Ubuntu.
I am new - to everything linux. I've played and piddled with other distros and was never able to get any of them to work until Unbuntu. They were just too darn hard and frustrating, I've got two set-ups, mine and my wife's.
I have Ubuntu on mine (which I really like and it's 100% of what I use, I'm totally converted). While I duel boot with Windows, I simply don't use Windows, and will eventually remove it. I've had Unbuntu for about two months now and I'm able to do everything I was doing in Windows. Configuring Ubuntu was a snap, thanks mostly to the Ubuntu forums. Hence, in many ways I guess I'm not as "new" as I'd like to think.
Both pc's are new - my wife has very limited needs (email and web surfing), so I installed Kubuntu on her computer, with duel boot. Doubt she'll ever notice the difference (hasn't so far) and don't expect to go back to Windows again.
Kubuntu, as mentioned, is more of a challenge. KDE is different from GNOME. I've yet to figure it all out, and expect a much steeper leaning curve. I probably should've installed Unbuntu, but was curious, so now I know.Comment
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This hasn't been my experience at all.
Ubuntu and Kubuntu worked just fine until Breezy came out.
Breezy's release was premature and not all the bugs were worked out (especially for KDE, but some were in Gnome as well).
They're gradually working out the kinks, but Hoary was far more stable.Comment
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Re: kubuntu - my review
this is my experience....i've switched to linux about a month ago and installed PCLinuxOS.this is now my main distro...i've played around with other distro's(currently kubuntu)but none are as complete out of the box as PCLinuxOS.you install it and everything just works and the only problem i have with kubuntu is that i can't get my network card to work.i've wanted to try out a debian based distro but this is the third with wich i can't get that realtek nic to work.Comment
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Re: kubuntu - my review
Ok, I read this title w/ sum hesitation; My Review? Ok where is the review? I read through several replies and all I can ascertain is that you have issues w/ KDE version of ubuntu. But what are these issues, what are these problems?
I've been using KUbuntu for about 2-months, granted not a great amount of time, but everything works as advertised:
WIFI - Automatically detected my installed card and set it up
CABLE MODEM - Automatically detected and setup
HardDisk - Automatically setup/patitioned
USB Mouse - Automatically setup
Western Digital External 250-gig HD - Automatically setup (USB)
LG External DVD RW - Automatically setup (USB)
Touchpad - Automatically setup
I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but if your going to say over/over that is broke, well, funny everything works fine for me, so WHAT is broke and WHAT have you don't to attempt to correct and are you sure its KDE that is jacked?
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Maybe if you change that you to I (meaning kinematic, not aysiu), then I can agree with you. It all depends on what your computer is. For example, on my computer, Ubuntu/Kubuntu recognizes everything out of the box. PCLinuxOS recognizes everything except my sound card and USB mouse. It all depends.Originally posted by kinematicComment
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you're right aysiu...but i'm dutch so english isn't my native language.in my mind i was translating from dutch to english and that was the result
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I just don't want people thinking PCLinuxOS is the cure-all for hardware woes any more than Ubuntu is the cure-all or that any Linux distro is the cure-all. One distro will recognize everything for one person's computer and not work on the next person's. I just wanted to clarify--that's all.Originally posted by kinematicyou're right aysiu...but i'm dutch so english isn't my native language.in my mind i was translating from dutch to english and that was the resultComment
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I too have the same experience. PCLOS is my main distro to date. Getting to the net is a little bit harder in debian based distros (as far as my experience goes). In deb systems try the "ppoeconf" command and it should settle the issue.Originally posted by kinematic
I wish I had TK-PPPOE installed by default in all distros.Comment
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Great review! So chock-full of detailed information!
NOT!!
Why is it that so many people who try any flavor of Linux and find it doesn't live up to their expectations always blame Linux, rather than their expectations?
I don't know how many times it's been said in countless forums, but I'll repeat it once more: Linux is not for everyone. It requires committment, some work, and (heaven forbid) rational thought. If you're not willing to invest those 3, you're better off sticking with an operating system that requires none of them--indeed, penalizes you for using the 3rd; i.e., Windows.
I'm always happy to lend a hand, but when someone's first post is "this sucks and I don't know why people like it" I'm not real motivated to offer advice.
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Re: kubuntu - my review
"Step into other's shoes"
That's what i can comment.
Not everybody will be "willing to try" type.
And, man in general, is afraid of changes, esp. if he is comfortable to certain extent in a particular system.
And we all have the "known devil is better than unknown angel" syndrome.
Hope this explains the reaction of the newbies.Comment
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The best forum moderator I ever encountered (the late M.D. Watts at the late LinuxNewbies.com) used to write. "If you have to ask why you should use Linux, then perhaps you shouldn't". The point is that, for various economic and societal reasons, it is harder for a new user to start using Linux, than it is to start using a pre-installed operating system like windoze or OS-X. Therefore, one has to be motivated by curiosity, anger at windoze defects, delight at mastering a new technology, or some other (only partly rational) reason to be willing to overcome the barriers to Linux entry.
As Aysiu pointed out, the hardware difficulties that one might encounter vary with both the distribution and the hardware. If at first you don't succeed, try another distro. This is less true now than it used to be even five years ago, but there are still enough barriers and problems to keep web sites like this one going.Comment
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The problem is most of the people don't know even linux exists !
Most are unheard of linux esp in the local print media.
While the big guys (Intel/MS) make a tom tom of their products , others don't and so their presence is not felt.Comment
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Re: kubuntu - my review
After reading the comments regarding Kubuntu I deceided to add my two cents hoping that someone who is undeceided might take heart. I am a native english speaker with a japanese laptop spouting a german keyboard. I have always disliked computers, mainly, I think, because I never understood them. I bought a laptop about a year ago which came with Knoppix as the OS. Unfortunatly it wouldn´t run on knoppix, suse or kubuntu. So after some deliberation I exchanged the old-new laptop for the current one, which came with an OS pre-installed ( for those of you wondering it wasn´t Mac OS.
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I was still interested in linux but again couldn´t get suse 10.0 to install. After that I gave up on the whole thing and resigned myself to staying a chump as regards computers and paying my bit toward ms. A week ago, after getting broadband, I was playing around and landed on the Kubuntu homepage. Without much ado, in the spirit of experimentation ( to see what my download rate was ) I downloaded a cd burner as well as Kubuntu ver. Dapper Drake and burned a cd. Imagine my surprise when I rebooted the cd and found a live working version of Kubuntu. I spent two days playing around before committing to the installation. Kubuntu installed easily going so far as to accept my language as english but recognising that I had a german keyboard. I need that for ü,ä,ö and ß. There were no problems and as far as I can determine all the hardware was found and installed. Bearing in mind that less than a year ago my laptop wouldn´t allow suse in and went into terminal sulk after a taste of Knoppix. I am now happily using Kubuntu and have had no problems with the system to date. I am, however, overwhelmed at the ammount of catching up I need to do. The forum has been a great help for that. I try and read everything including the manuals before posting a question but there is just so much information, so bear with me if I post a question that may have already been addressed somewhere else in the forum.
For my limited needs Kubuntu has more that furfilled my expectations and as soon as I have mastered more than just starting Thunderbird and Konqueror I don´t think I´ll be going back to any other OS.
Which leaves me with only one question: Is it only me or are there others out there who have no idea how to use the command console. Between ` file not found ` and ` unable to execute ` I have had very, very limited success in going anywhere. I have managed to paste commands into the consol but to no avail. Let me know your thoughts on that.
So in conclusion, take that leap of faith. Linux may not be for everyone but Kubuntu seems a good place to start. And who knows, you might find, as I did, that you like it.
PS. A big thank you! to all those people who spend all their free time working to improve linux. Without your hard work and dedication in making linux as user friendly as it is now there would be even less of us prepared to make the change.
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