GNOME Dev on the cost of preferences

[chimak111]

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/...tobias-bernard
which points to
https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/202...unity-power-4/
which has this
https://ometer.com/preferences.html

[jlittle]

Expletive deleted.

[Beerislife]

And that's why I prefer KDE, with Cinnamon coming in close second...

[jglen490]

I couldn't get through the drooling ego statements in the first link.

Gnome isn't even pleasing to the eye.

[oldgeek]

So according to this KDE produces a bad desktop. Maybe Gnome wants to be the only desktop. Sorry, but I PREFER KDE:

[GreyGeek]

Part of what makes Linux appealing to me (even now, some 13 years on from first discovering it) is that it gives ME control. The fact (that) I get to choose how my desktop behaves on my hardware is, even today in 2021, mind-blowingly awesome.

And that is why I have used KDE since KDE 1.0 Beta in September of 1998.
On my Dolphin my right mouse context has at least 50 "preferences" that I've installed. As widgets they are easy to download and install right from Dolphin itself.

[Bings]

Being able to choose whether to use GNOME or not is the best preference of them all.

[claydoh]

lets play a Devil's advocate, in a way.

The concepts do bring up some valid points, though of course some things are taken to extremes

Current iterations of Gnome 'simplifying' things
KDE up to KDE 4 having options upon options upon options, many of these hacks and workarounds.

I loooorrrvve KDE, and also myself have used it every day since the KDE 1 days, but man o man, no ones seems to remember how gosh durned buggy and crash happy it very often was. I am not talking about theming and appearance, both KDE and Gnome can have issues with janky themes, extensions, whatever.

There were always normal, every day actions that would cause KDE to simply go Poof!
I personally don't recall ever having a Gnome desktop (or Unity for that matter) ever just crash., Granted, I lack the years of regular usage on either of these.


But,, my point is, if I even have one , is that there are tradeoffs. Not everyone is willing to put up with the jankiness that can happen when customizing Plasma, particularly crap random styles, Kvantum messiness, and Latte Dock's (potentially) overly complex configuration.
I can't stand Gnome, and can;'t actually describe why, and am more than willing and patient to put up with some goofiness. These days, this is mostly at a minimum, until I muck with things. I am looking at YOU Latte!! Baaad Latte!

[GreyGeek]

That was a nice post, Claydoh!

Since I first adopted Kubuntu as 9.04 alpha in Jan of 2009, I've rarely had problems with Kubuntu that I didn't create my self. For the most part, I stick with the vanilla install and settings ... change the font size for my tired old eyes, and stay with Breeze as my theme. Keeping with the stock settings does two things: makes it easier for me to remember, which is an increasing problem at 80, and .... I forgot what the second thing was.

[chimak111]

...
On my Dolphin my right mouse context has at least 50 "preferences" ...

That might be seen as cruelty to dolphins

I have a few, mostly service menu items and specific to certain filetypes.

As for GNOME applications, I like Mousepad and Meld.

[Beerislife]

Latte Dock is a monster! I can't get my head around it at all, it has far too many settings just for a Dock. If I were to install and use one it would be Plank. It has enough options to make it useable!

[Bings]

"Plank" I just had a mental image of drawing some icons on a bit of wood and leaning it against the bottom of the monitor.

[MoonRise]

....... I am looking at YOU Latte!! Baaad Latte!

LOL, I think the same thing!

[Beerislife]

I'd rather have a Plank than a Latte! All that milk would have me sick for days! ��

https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/1...-on-linux.html

[Don B. Cilly]

Just my 2 cents... I've never had any issues with Latte dock. And I do find it to be a nice complement to the task manager.
What tends to misbehave on this machine (Dell Latitude E7440, with Neon 20.04/5.22.3), which is a naturally misbehaving piece of hardware in itself, is, mainly, plasmashell.
Every... couple of days or so, on average, it will go bonkers. Lose wallpapers and widgets, forget things...

Now, thanks to Claydoh, I learned about the plasmashell --replace command. I set Alt-F5 as a shortcut for it (it was free).
Now, whenever Plasma starts blowing raspberries at me, I Alt-F5 and blow them right back :-)

That said, I wouldn't change KDE for anything.
I've done my share of distro-hopping. Tried almost all of them. Nothing (even vaguely) compares. For my tastes obviously.

The only other thing I've found (on this machine, and pretty seldom) to go haywire, is Firefox. Reboot will fix that. Plasmashell, reboot usually won't, Alt-F5 (a lot quicker too) will.