Forbes thinks there should be Linux advertising paid for and professional

[woodsmoke]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev.../#1f3804ff859c

woodsmoke

[jglen490]

Of course, and it comes from their basic premise that nothing that doesn't make a profit is worthy - of anything.

Linux is not about money, it's about computing and Linux is doing very well at its job. Forbes needs to do better at its job.

[GreyGeek]

Jason Evangelho has forgotten that Linux isn't owned by a specific corporate entity, and none of the existing corporate entities, like IBM (bought RH for $2.5B), openSUSE, Canonical and the other smaller ones will not advertise because their ads would benefit ALL Linux distros, not just theirs. Canonical found that out with their political but brilliant ad in Feb of 2009, which won a 1st place ad award, and was titled "What does it mean to be free". It is politically incorrect today because of a single sentence: "be free to say what ever you want, to whom ever you want, however you want". It never mentioned Ubuntu. A French ad in April of 2009 took 3rd place. It featured a hospital setting with a desktop laying on the operating table and doctors in attendance trying to restore normal function. It "dies" and everyone looks sad. I tall Penguin bursts through the doors into the OR, and pushing the Doctors inside, reaches into the box. One hears static discharges and then the desktop springs to life. Walking out of the OR with an OR nurse under each arm they ask the Penguin what the difference between Windows and Mac. He answers "nothing". The closing frame is the word "Linux". No specific distro is mentioned but I suspect that because the dialog was in French it was for the distro created by Gaël Duval, called Mandrake.

IBM will, no doubt, advertise features of the distro they bought, but they'll only mention the features and never use the name of their distro or the word "Linux". They'll create trade marked technical names and jargon that can only be linked to specific IBM patented technologies that they want to sell.

Forbes is, IMO, also being paid to push a couple distros in its pages: Zorin 15 and Deepin v20.

I downloaded Deepin's v20 demo ISO and burned it to a USB stick. Running it from the USB stick, it was truly beautiful and stunning, but that's only theme deep. The much featured Hummingbird wallpaper is beautiful. The major apps were quick and responsive, but most of it was standard Linux. Then I decided to run it in Virtual Box. The Hummingbird was gone and nowhere to be found. The beauty of the frames was gone. The repository was down, or never up. Menu links crashed or the app was missing. A re-install didn't help. How could the same ISO deliver a stunning LiveUSB performance and then be stink ugly running as a VM and, I suspect, on bare metal? I deleted the VM and the ISO. I suspect that the Chinese version of Deepin v20 has lots of tracking software on it which feeds into China's Social Credit Score system, but is not in the versions accessible to non-Chinese users.

For the last couple of days I've been playing with a LiveUSB of the free version of Zorin 15. The paid version, Zorin 15 Ultimate is just like the free version but with all the major apps and games pre-installed. However, any of those pre-installed apps can be installed from the repository by users of the free version. The Zorin desktop is beautiful, well crafted and somewhat unique in how its appearance can be changed. It has one major exception, IMO. The apps UIs are well beyond bland. No borders, black on white. All changable, no doubt, but a confusing eye sore. Put two apps side by side and it would be difficult to tell where one ended and the other began, except for a thin vertical line.

However, the MAJOR reason why I believe Forbes and the other news outlets and computer journals are pushing Zorin could be money from M$. Zorin 15 features Visual Studio Code, PowerShell, and other Microsoft tools and utilities which probably require MONO or .NET to be installed. They are appealing directly to Windows developers who may be deciding to switch to Linux. Back in 2004 I abandon Visual Studio running on XP in favor of Qt 4.0 running on SuSE 6.3 because developing under SuSE was 2-5X faster than developing the same code under VS on XP. I didn't fire up either VSC or PS,and I've never run them under Win10, which I am barely familiar with, so I can't say if they are feature equivalent to what is on Win10. IF not, Win10 coders will soon find out and then blame Linux on their way back to Win10. They'll never see the power and beauty of QtCreator and the Qt5 SDK.

Zorin has one feature I really like: the ability from the grub menu to choose an option that boots and runs the desktop using Nvidia drivers. On my Acer Aspire V3-771G with the GT 650M video chip that menu option used nvidia-4.19. I installed 4.90 on my 18.04 LTS installation. I really can't tell the difference but there probably is some differrence, or bug, that I haven't encountered.

[Grave Digger]

forbes can take a fly FLOCK

Of course, and it comes from their basic premise that nothing that doesn't make a profit is worthy - of anything.

Linux is not about money, it's about computing and Linux is doing very well at its job. Forbes needs to do better at its job.

actually forbes needs to be blownup.

[GreyGeek]

Someone, somewhere, somehow could/might/will construe that statement as a meaningful terroristic threat. Especially in the land of "Free Speech", to say nothing of Britian, Ireland, France and the EU. You might want to delete it.

[GreyGeek]

Having mentioned Zorin 15's Microsoft connection in a posting above, I thought I should include a post about Manjaro in the list of Linux distros that include at least Microsoft links to Office, Excel, Powerpoint online in their main ISO, if not the actual MS code itself. Manjaro is an excellent distro

[Grave Digger]

Someone, somewhere, somehow could/might/will construe that statement as a meaningful terroristic threat. Especially in the land of "Free Speech", to say nothing of Britian, Ireland, France and the EU. You might want to delete it.

just by the way it's worded it's not a threat. let's no pretend that it is in any form.

[SpecialEd]

just by the way it's worded it's not a threat. let's no pretend that it is in any form.

actually forbes needs to be blownup.

Gee, don't know how anyone could misconstrue that as a threat.

[Grave Digger]

Gee, don't know how anyone could misconstrue that as a threat.

BYE BYE just got yourself on the ignore list.

[SpecialEd]

BYE BYE just got yourself on the ignore list.

Now that's funny.