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    Just Joined Yesterday

    Hope this is the right sub forum for an intro post.

    I've been with Linux full time since 2015, before that, I started tinkering with it in 2010, so probably still a newbie all the way around compared with some.

    Did the typical "distro hopping" for awhile. When I first started using Linux full time, I was using the standard Fedora release. Held onto that til it was almost EOL. Then it was going back and forth between distros. Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, SparkyLinux GameOver, Kubuntu, KDE-Neon, Manjaro, Mint, Zorin (as you can see a lot of Ubuntu based distros).

    KDE is by far my favorite DE. I liked Ubuntu based versions just due to, in my experience, ease of install and post-install use. Just able to get going with little effort. Especially getting the Nvidia driver installed and working as I needed that over the default Nouveau driver for the 3 monitor setup.

    My main use is for design work. I'm mainly an embroidery digitizer, but I do other type of apparel design work as well. Also do 2D animation (traditional frame by frame and IK based) and 3D printing, so my workflow is mainly as an artist (no coder here, about as much coding that I've done is BASH scripts, if one considers that coding).

    My main office rig is a Lenovo Thinkstation with a Xeon E5 CPU, 32GB of ECC RAM, 3 monitor setup (2 Viewsonic 27" and a 27 Wacom Cintiq QHD monitor) running Kubuntu 18.04.

    I think that's it in a nutshell. Glad to be here and looking forward to learning from everyone.
    Lenovo Thinkstation: Xeon E5 CPU 32GB ECC Ram KDE Neon

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    Welcome!!

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      #3
      Your path sounds a lot like many here. Obviously, we all prefer the Ubuntu ecosystem and Plasma 5 (aka KDE) too. I personally use Neon because I like the combo of a stable LTS base with the latest and greatest Plasma 5 on top.

      Welcome to the forum.

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        #4
        My son still has the latest Neon on his little computer. 16.04 based Neon was alright on my computer, but after a fresh install of 18.04 Neon, I got a totally blank screen, right after I did the install, so I hadn't done any of the post install work and thus not committed to anything, so I just went to Kubuntu 18.04. Neon 18.04 works fine on my son's computer, so it must have been something on mine that caused it to wig out. Since it happened on my main production rig, spending too much time troubleshooting when I wasn't too far committed to the install anyway, I just loaded up Kubuntu.

        Of course, it would have been far better if I hadn't done that during a work week as well. I really should do these fresh installs on a weekend (and even though I keep saying that, I still do it during the work week).
        Lenovo Thinkstation: Xeon E5 CPU 32GB ECC Ram KDE Neon

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          #5
          The "black screen on installation" isn't unusual. If you search it you'll find lots of posts referencing lots of distros. It's usually a video issue that goes away when you get the proper driver installed and configured. I myself am running Neon on a desktop with an nvidia card and two Dell laptops with Intel built-in GPUs without problem. Well, except that Kscreen is still mostly useless for laptops when you switch monitor configurations often.

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            #6
            I have no doubt that it was something that could have been fixed. One thing that I have quickly come to love about Linux is that even if something that is/gets broken, more likely then not the user can get it working again. Unlike other platforms where they more then likely have to wait for an update, either thru the OS vendor or the software vendor. I was mainly on a time crunch and it was far quicker to go with something that I knew was going to work on my system then to try to troubleshoot.

            Now, if I can only figure out why Kubuntu wont allow me to elevate and run the GUI version of Bleachbit after so many times (this seems to vary) between boots. My workround now is just to run a script for running Bleachbit via CLI and just elevate that when I need certain things cleaned. It's a minor thing (I have noticed on other programs (2 others right off the bat, not elevated though, just running as normal and those are games, SuperTux and TuxKart, both portable versions) and that work around seems to be good enough so far. I wonder if it has something to do with the PyGTK wrappers and not playing nice with a KDE based distro. Dunno, just spitballing.
            Lenovo Thinkstation: Xeon E5 CPU 32GB ECC Ram KDE Neon

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              #7
              As to Bleachbit running as root. See https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t...ails-18-04/621
              Windows no longer obstructs my view.
              Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
              "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                #8
                Well, the Plasma developers have been struggling with security things for a little while. They locked down Dolphin from root and you would have thought they were stealing babies they way people reacted. Kate now will edit root owned files and ask you for sudo password when you try to save. Anyway, the point is it may be due to that. It seems like you should be able to either edit the Kmenu entry and add sudo to the command line (if that even works) or try "Run as a different user" - but I think that would require you to create a root password, which not everyone wants. Likely, the best solution would be to create a sudoers file for bleachbit and add sudo to the Exec line in the desktop file and in kmenu. Then you'd be root every time you launched it and wouldn't have to enter your password.

                As usual with Linux, there's way more than one answer to the problem

                Please Read Me

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                  #9
                  Welcome to KFN!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                    Well, the Plasma developers have been struggling with security things for a little while. They locked down Dolphin from root and you would have thought they were stealing babies they way people reacted. Kate now will edit root owned files and ask you for sudo password when you try to save.
                    Ironically, I actually wasn't fond of that as well. I had to find other ways around it (which I got pretty quick at and think were quicker then the other ways I was doing things).

                    Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                    Anyway, the point is it may be due to that. It seems like you should be able to either edit the Kmenu entry and add sudo to the command line (if that even works) or try "Run as a different user" - but I think that would require you to create a root password, which not everyone wants. Likely, the best solution would be to create a sudoers file for bleachbit and add sudo to the Exec line in the desktop file and in kmenu. Then you'd be root every time you launched it and wouldn't have to enter your password.
                    Attached is what I'm getting when I run it via CLI using Yakuake. If I'm reading the output correctly it seems to be a display issue more then a permissions one. It will run maybe once, twice, at most 3 times without rebooting graphically. That's when I just decided to script everything and run it CLI (I really didn't want to manually input all those cleaner commands every single time). And it works every time, just the inconsistency of the GUI use (and I am more of a GUI user).

                    Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                    As usual with Linux, there's way more than one answer to the problem
                    That's what I love about Linux. It actually made computing fun again. I grew up with computers (I grew up during the rise of the PC (a time when Macs were thought of as PCs as well (and I still think of them that way despite their marketing campaign). Outside of a couple of quirks (which all platforms have them), I prefer the KDE environment the most.

                    Originally posted by MoonRise View Post
                    Welcome to KFN!!
                    Thank you!
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                    Lenovo Thinkstation: Xeon E5 CPU 32GB ECC Ram KDE Neon

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                      #11
                      RE: WWDERW

                      Nice intro. Welcome to KFN.
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                        #12
                        WWDERW, the actual problem you're encountering is that you're try to run a GUI program as root. The ability to do this is going away completely when X goes away. It's generally dangerous and usually unnecessary. The plan going forward is to have an application that needs root level access be program to have that within the application - like Kate - rather than requiring the whole program run as root.

                        In the mean time, try launching Bleachbit with either of these methods;

                        /etc/alternatives/kdesu bleachbit

                        or

                        sudo -i bleachbit

                        Either of these should allow you to run Bleachbit as root but without endangering your home folder.

                        Source thread: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth.../73471-Kdesudo

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post

                          /etc/alternatives/kdesu bleachbit

                          or

                          sudo -i bleachbit
                          Neither worked.

                          The former said that it couldn't connect to X server and the latter gave me the same error that I attached earlier.
                          Lenovo Thinkstation: Xeon E5 CPU 32GB ECC Ram KDE Neon

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                            #14
                            Did you see my post #7?
                            Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                            Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                            "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
                              Did you see my post #7?
                              Yes, editing the desktop file (root version) yielded the same results as the attachment that I posted.

                              The only reliable method that I have found is to use the bash script, which is fine for my use, I'm just wondering why the need in KDE and in the GTK based ones, it's not any problem. Only reason that I can think is that Bleachbit is a GTK based program. I might be off my rocker, but that's the only thing that I can think of.
                              Lenovo Thinkstation: Xeon E5 CPU 32GB ECC Ram KDE Neon

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