Mint to discontinue their KDE version

[Snowhog]

where do KDE neon users go for support? Here or KDE forums?

Both places.

[dequire]

Both places.

...And also Reddit and Google Plus and...Such is the nature of Open Source and technology. I like it here very much and additionally also find interesting stuff on Reddit as well. Additionally, there are Kubuntu and KDE subreddits as well.

[mr_raider]

Is there a neon version that uses 16.04.1 i.e without the xswrver hwe stack?

[oshunluvr]

Is there a neon version that uses 16.04.1 i.e without the xswrver hwe stack?

I don't know the answer, but KDEneon is not a distro. It's cutting-edge Plasma Desktop on top of an Ubuntu base. Therefore, whatever is or isn't available to Ubuntu 16.04 is or isn't available in KDEneon.

There's only four versions of KDEneon available: User Edition, User LTS Edition, Developer Git Stable, Developer Git Unstable. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out your answer. I can say my un-updated KDEneon LTS Vbox install is running kernel 4.4 and no hwe labeled packages are installed by default. I believe if you upgrade to 4.8 or above kernels, you get hwe.

[chimak111]

Re. HWE, there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack

My understanding is that if a user starts off with 16.04 (original or maybe 16.04.1), the kernel will remain on 4.4 for the life of 16.04.

If a user does a clean install of 16.04.3 (or maybe even 16.04.2), the kernel will be on the "fast track" and currently that's 4.10, at least on my Kubuntu 16.04 which I started off with 16.04.2, not the original 16.04.

It's purely my opinion that users with "older" hardware may prefer the former route. Users who have some sort of issues and are hopeful that a newer kernel may help or users who like new-n-shiny could also go the HWE route as described in the wiki.

[mr_raider]

Re. HWE, there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack

My understanding is that if a user starts off with 16.04 (original or maybe 16.04.1), the kernel will remain on 4.4 for the life of 16.04.

If a user does a clean install of 16.04.3 (or maybe even 16.04.2), the kernel will be on the "fast track" and currently that's 4.10, at least on my Kubuntu 16.04 which I started off with 16.04.2, not the original 16.04.

It's purely my opinion that users with "older" hardware may prefer the former route. Users who have some sort of issues and are hopeful that a newer kernel may help or users who like new-n-shiny could also go the HWE route as described in the wiki.

It's not the kernel that is the issue. The HWE stack also replaces the xserver packages and drivers, with different names. These packages conflict with a lot of 3rd party repos, notably oibap and padoka PPAs.

I have a Carrizo chip, and the newer amdgpu drivers and mesa drivers from oibaf greatly improve performance.

[jglen490]

Sometimes it's fun to be at the leading edge, or even the bleeding edge. But it's also easy to get ahead of something that's important to certain users without a cohesive, total product.

We can opine all day long about whether one distro or another appeals to a certain demographic - or it even targeted to that demographic - but the facts matter. There are a lot of newer Linux users on the Mint forum, but there are also a lot of users - period. It's a very active place. Also, Mint has enough on it's plate with Mate, and Cinnamon, and others including LMDE. And so they have given Kubuntu devs props for doing KDE right, and are bowing out of the arena, but not the Ubuntu base - for now. So now is the opportunity for Kubuntu to be proactive and market itself to all those LM KDE folks, new and old, before they decide that it's easier to stick with the "Devil they know" and to just switch to one of the other LM DEs.

[GreyGeek]

Excellent comment


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