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**GreyGeek** · Aug 23, 2017, 12:59 PM

Sounds like similar paradigms.

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:20 AM

Interesting ...

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:22 AM

And this ...

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:26 AM

And these ...

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:50 AM

If you insist that those with whom you disagree should not be allowed to have a website on the Internet, or post their opinions on social media and other outlets, then YOU do not agree with Free Speech. And it won't be long before Apple, Google, Cloudflare and other giants of social media decide, arbitrarily, that YOU shouldn't be allowed to write your opinion.

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:54 AM

And here is an example of those violent Trump supporters in action!
http://conservativetribune.com/libs-...trump-phoenix/

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 09:02 AM

And the biggest lie of all? That Conservative Republicans (as opposed to RHINOs) tolerate racists in their mists but Democrats do not. Now for a history lesson you will never get in today's school curriculum:

Democrats think nothing of ad hominem attacks against Conservative Blacks, throwing the vilest accusations at them.

**vinnywright** · Aug 26, 2017, 06:00 PM

I dont need video ,,,or news stories playing ,,,tit for tat for me to see that Trump (twitler) is a buffoon .

he shows it in his tweets ,,,,his actions through policy , the things he seas and dose ,,,,,,I said it before he got elected and I say it now ,,, he was not qualified to be president ,,,, he has not become qualified to be president ,,,,and I do not see him ever being qualified to be president.

I am quite sure their are racists in both camps ,,,,,,,,the thing is it's time to drop all that nonsense,,,,and I think I see ,,,from what I get to see that Democrats (mostly) are a bit further down that road .

but ,,,that is just my opinion.

VINNY

**whatthefunk** · Aug 26, 2017, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post

And the biggest lie of all? That Conservative Republicans (as opposed to RHINOs) tolerate racists in their mists but Democrats do not. Now for a history lesson you will never get in today's school curriculum:

Democrats think nothing of ad hominem attacks against Conservative Blacks, throwing the vilest accusations at them.

This is a ridiculous argument. Are you saying that neither party has changed in the last 150 years? You do realize that all the guys marching through our streets waving confederate and Nazi flags are voting republican, right? And you realize that the Republican party is casting the counter protesters as ultra left, freedom hating fascists, right? And that the Republican president won't call out the Nazis?

**GreyGeek** · Aug 26, 2017, 07:06 PM

What facts did she give that were in error?

Trump stated this:
http://time.com/4899810/donald-trump-charlottesville/

but the MNM couldn't wait to condemned him. Because his rebuke was aimed at both sides and wasn't expressed in the exact words they felt he should use they vilified him by claiming he "couldn't bring himself to condemn White Supremacy".

Besides that, he was condemned because he waited two full days to see full reports on what happened before he issued his statement. Why would he wait two days? He certainly can't trust the MNM to deliver an unbiased report. After all, to quote CNN's Cummo, "We've helped Hillary all we can. We can't help her any more than we already have". Now, they and the rest were and are are helping the Democrats and "Counter Protesters" (i.e., Antifa) in an all out full attack mode, and are even siding with extremists within the Democrats and other Leftist groups who are calling for Trump to be assassinated. Nine days later and I'm still looking for Pelosi, Waters, Schumer or other Democrat Congressional leaders, or the talking heads of the MNM, to condemn the call for Trump's assassination by a Mo. State Senator. While they present one face to the public, they say other things in private about Hispanics, gays and Blacks. Imagine the outrage on the Left if the word "homo" was found in a Republican email.

**Qqmike** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:04 PM

Vinny: I dont need video ,,,or news stories playing ,,,tit for tat for me to see that Trump (twitler) is a buffoon .

Yep, agree.

Got a friend, successful independent business owner, age 70, Army vet, has both feet firmly on the ground, smart guy, logical guy, self-made innovator-chemist, traditionally "independent" but leans heavily, predictably conservative GOP, and I always anticipate some friction-packed disagreements when politics comes up. However ... After the 2016 election went to the Liar-in-Chief, he told me that before the election he had watched the two-hour Frontline special on the 2016 election, where the histories of both Hillary and Trump were detailed and paralleled, starting from their childhoods. He asked me if I had seen it, I said yeah, I watched it (actually twice), and then he said, Anyone who watched that, and had even half a brain, would never have voted for Trump for POTUS. Of course, he had done more voter research than that, as had I. But, how many voters do even 20 minutes of research on the candidates before casting their vote? Just 70,000 votes thew that electoral college. Hillary was and is not the best ideal for POTUS, but at least she is mentally within the norms. One might say that many politicians are a*sho**s, and we could debate that. But there are normal a*h*s and there are sick, dysfunctional, abnormal ones. The name of the game now, until 2020, is to simply preserve our Democracy, such as it is, and as flawed as it may be.

**whatthefunk** · Aug 26, 2017, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post

What facts did she give that were in error?

Trump stated this:

Its not the facts, its the logic. The logic presented is this:
BECAUSE [Republicans didnt tolerate racism] 150 YEARS AGO
NOW [Republicans dont tolerate racism]

So, lets test this out:
BECAUSE [people got around by horses] 150 YEARS AGO
NOW [people get around by horses]

The fact that something existed in the past does not mean it exists now so using the past to prove the present is completely illogical.

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