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    "the October Surprise"

    I post this because the U.S. probably just got the biggest one ever.

    Since this is an international forum, it is possible that folks outside the U.S. and also PROBABLY a LOT of people IN the U.S. who do not know about "the October Surprise".

    I'm not saying that I am against or for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

    In fact, if one searches my posts I usually refer to Demicans and Repubicats.

    However, "the October Surprise" is a real phenomenon. I provide the first few sentences from the Wikipedia article and a link.

    In American political jargon, an October surprise is a news event deliberately created or timed ..... (or sometimes occurring spontaneously) to influence the outcome of an election, particularly one for the U.S. presidency.
    Whether this is "spontaneous" or "created" is, perforce, presently, unknown.

    It "may" be that there was almost "pressure cooker" situation being built up in the FBI over what was perceived by more than half of the country that Dir. Comey had "dodged the political bullet / paid off somehow" on indicting Hillary Clinton.

    And this may be because there was WITHIN the FBI RANK AND FILE:

    a) A situation in which they really did think that Clinton did not have a problem BUT wanted to "clear the reputation of the FBI".

    or

    b) A situation in which there really was a "dodge the political bullet / paid off somehow" by Dir. Comey and that the rank and file wanted the "right thing" to be done AND to "clear the reputation of the FBI".

    OR IT MAY BE ....That Dir. Comey did all of this "apurpose" to do THIS NOW.... to get "at" Hillary, Bill and all of it....

    BUT, I do not think that he would have done it if there really was NOT real evidence...

    But.....

    As is usual with politics in a country large enough to be able to "hide stuff" as opposed to a small country with a dictator who just kills the opponents we will probably NEVER know why this particular October Surprise occured ...

    UNLESS...... Hillary Clinton REALLY IS INDICTED and goes on trial.

    Otherwise..... it would just be the latest in a long line of October Surprises.

    What is the line from the James Bond song?

    I've seen angels fall from blinding heights
    But you yourself are nothing so divine
    Just next in line


    Woodhastothinkthatthiselectionisaturningpointeithe rwaysmoke
    Last edited by woodsmoke; Oct 28, 2016, 12:30 PM.

    #2
    So, what is the surprise?
    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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      #3
      And, while I am waiting for your answer, let this video soak in ...
      "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
      – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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        #4
        Hi
        sorry, my life has veered greatly, the Comey thing about the FBI and the reopening of the e-mail stuff on top of the latest doc dump about clinton foundation, and hookups to quid pro quo for u.s. uranium to Russia.
        Last edited by woodsmoke; Nov 01, 2016, 06:41 PM.

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          #5
          Oh. BTW, that video I linked to, which YT blocked, got so much bad publicity for YT that they unblocked it.
          "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
          – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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            #6
            This is NOT saying that I watch Donald Trump videos, but while working on a thing I needed to start and restart YouTube a lot and it just so happened that Trump was being the energizer bunny and did no less than THREE rallies in one day in two states.

            But be that by the by, part way through he was talking about the FBI thing about restarting the investigation and there was a "brrttt" and the sentence disappeared because...

            We do NOT see this kind of stuff in "real time" it goes through a real time editing / processing type of thing before it is sent out and we see it and the comment was edited out! ok...

            Well, I was....thinking ...maybe it was just a glitch in the feed ... so,

            I watched another, kinda the same thing and when he brought up the FBI thing.... "brrrt" and the comment was gone.

            They couldn't very well just delete the whole speech so they edit SELECTIVELY..... :0

            If a Republican / Conservative dominated "You Tube" did this the Lefties would be in vocal / open / revolt....

            But....for Trump, I think that he has figured out that he isn't going to get a fair shot.

            Oh, BTW, the ralley had something like 12,000 people in the venue and another 8 thousand outside and the "views" was like 60,000 views.

            But, I figure that Billary has it in the bag so I don't pay that much attention.

            All I want is a fourty hour work week back so that I can get my other section back and scuba with disabled people like I used to.
            woodsmoke
            Last edited by woodsmoke; Nov 01, 2016, 09:12 PM.

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              #7
              The MNM has a 7 second delay in "live" broadcasts so that they can "follow FCC rules regarding offensive incidents", like foul words or exposed nipples. But, mostly, it is being used to "brtttt" what the MNM deems as "hate" speech, i.e., anything said that counter's their Leftist narrative. YouTube, Twitter and Facebook combined forces to harass, hamper or block conservative view points. YT does it by defunding videos, meaning that although Google still gets ad revenues proportional to the number of times an ad prefaces a video, Google refuses to pass along the creator's share ($2-4 per 1,000 views, according to Phil Defranco). Many channel creators are making a living off of YT ad revenue sharing, like David Cullen on his "Computing Forever" channel. For Google to defund his videos is to steal his paycheck. It is a deliberate political act. Some (mainly on the Left) become sudden supporters of free enterprise, claiming that Google is a private company and doesn't have to support the 1st Amendment. Well, so is NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, etc... (PBS is not, they accept government funding but are more Left than the others), and so was the baker who decided bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. The baker was forced to violate his 1st Amendment rights but it's alright if the MNM violates the 1st Amendment rights of half of the population. Only in la-la land.
              "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
              – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                #8
                AT LAST

                And from Louis Farrakan of whom I am not a big fan but he DOES say his mind CONSISTENTLY.

                He BLASTED Hillary AND Obama in a sermon but......HERE IS THE AMAZING part:

                I read Sanger's stuff when I was taking grad classes in "population and birth control"

                Here is what Farrakan SAID:

                Farrakhan also criticized Clinton for receiving the Margaret Sanger Award from Planned Parenthood in 2009.

                “It was Mrs. Sanger who advocated population control of black and poor people,” Farrakhan said.

                “In a 1939 letter, Sanger wrote about getting the black preachers to help with her efforts. She said, ‘we don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.’ … And when Mrs. Clinton received the award, [she said] I admire Margaret Sanger enormously. Her courage. Her tenacity. Her vision.’ Now they have to admit that the war on drugs was a war on black people.”
                AMAZING!! AMAZING!

                Sanger has been ERASED from Planned Parenthood site

                and the pooh poohers say that PP has "moved beyond"


                BUT.... A bunch of Black Preachers came out against Planned Parenthood a few years ago but were "shushed" by the MSM and the Democratic Power People.

                They said that when PP says it is to "help" Black women who are afflicted with kids

                But the BLACK PREACHERS say that it is really to reduce black population....

                for which I (woodsmoke) completely agree...."most" of the PP centers are in heavily black neighborhoods. (supposedly )

                The gist of the sermon is COMPLETELY transcribed by.............detested of the left.;...Fox News:

                http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...in-sermon.html

                woodflabbergastedsmoke
                Last edited by woodsmoke; Nov 02, 2016, 02:20 PM.

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                  #9
                  At least the Dems are consistent.

                  They seceded from the Union because the party of Lincoln was against slavery and they saw the vote outlawing slavery across the nation going against them.

                  After the war they started the KKK to terrorized Blacks and prevent them from voting, and to drive those who had been elected out of office.
                  They passed poll taxes because Blacks were too poor to pay them and were prevented from voting.

                  Ditto for reading and writing tests.

                  They passed the first infringements of the 2nd Amendment specifically to prevent Blacks from owning firearms to defend themselves against the KKK.

                  They took credit for the Civil Rights act of 1964 even thought ALL the Republicans voted for it but not all the Democrats.
                  The Great Society Act of 1967, supported mainly by Democrats, reversed years of increasing literacy, health and family units, driving fathers out of family, and forcing mothers to raise their children alone. That travesty has led to the current situation where welfare mothers are having multiple children by multiple fathers and none of them are raising the kids, grandma supposedly is. The kids are ferrel, raised on the streets and in the gangs. After signing the bill Johnson is quoted as saying "This will have those n***** voting Democrat for decades!" He was right.

                  The WIkileaks was alright with the Democrats as long as the Republican ox was getting gored, now the shoe is on the other foot. What Bill, Hillary, Podesta and their gang are doing to corrupt and steal this election boggles the mind.

                  The MNM is no longer pretending to be "fair and balanced". They are in the tank for Hillary and have been for YEARS. The emails prove that.

                  Nixon was impeached for the erasure of JUST 18 minutes of tape. Hilary deletes over 30,000 emails the day AFTER she gets a subpoena for them and Comey calls her "careless" but "lacking intent". Strange, the law on gov email security does not include an "intent" clause. Now, it appears that 650,000 of Clinton's emails are on Weiner's computer, sent to him, or stored, by his wife, Abedin. Future blackmail ammo by Abedin if Hillary wins? Or, her/his life insurance either way?

                  Regardless, the DOJ has prosecuted and jailed service men who have inadvertently used a single email, much less than 30,000 or 650,000 and still the Democrats are howling "unfair". it makes a travesty of the Department of Justice:
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                  Now, the new "investigation" being conducted by the DOJ will be/is being handled by guess who? Podesta's life long friend and buddy, Kadzek, who defended him during his term as chief of staff of Bill Clinton. Podesta said "He kept me out of jail!". With so many Democrat party hacks embedded in Federal Agencies (Janet Leher, and her replacement, the BTFA head, the EPA head, etc..,) and putting their fingers on the balance of justice they have to nerve to complain about Comey bringing to light a new lead?
                  Last edited by GreyGeek; Nov 02, 2016, 05:12 PM.
                  "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                  – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                    #10
                    Last edited by wizard10000; Nov 03, 2016, 09:35 AM.
                    we see things not as they are, but as we are.
                    -- anais nin

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                      #11
                      'His mind is not for rent"

                      Clever, I like that!
                      "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                      – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                        'His mind is not for rent"

                        Clever, I like that!
                        Yeah, but we're giving away our age Been a fan since almost day one but didn't get to see them until Milwaukee in 2002.

                        Rush has retired from touring, but a couple years back I inflicted the documentary "Upon the Lighted Stage" on my oldest son, who was amazed that so much music came from only three people. I play bass (rather poorly) so have been a fan of Geddy for many years

                        edit: Since Geddy is Canadian he probably can't run for president. So - I'm writing in Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho instead. The only candidate who's both a wrestler and a porn star!
                        Last edited by wizard10000; Nov 03, 2016, 09:53 AM.
                        we see things not as they are, but as we are.
                        -- anais nin

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                          #13
                          Well, THIS is just stunning!

                          Apparently, and I've checked this, it IS on the stated news feed, and does not SEEM to be a "fake"...that Pres. Obama just advocated that "illegal immigrants can vote without consequence".

                          woodsmoke

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                            #14
                            http://www.snopes.com/obama-encourag...liens-to-vote/

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                              #15
                              LOL

                              LOL

                              Vinney

                              I searched SNOPES just an hour ago..............just AN HOUR AGO.... and guess that I used the wrong search term because I DID NOT GET THAT RETURN!!

                              So..................my estimation of Cavuto has just gone DOWN.... a LOT.....

                              I will leave the link to Cavuto so that other people can see it AND your linky!

                              HOWEVER.............I will post the relevant phrase:

                              Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country --

                              are fearful of ( woodsmoke: system / act / methodology ? ) voting.

                              So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
                              So..... the PLAIN WORDS are "fearful of voting",

                              the question is................. IS.......

                              are the words....

                              (Illegals) fearful of voting...

                              referring to THE ILLEGALS VOTING....

                              or the consequences of a LEGAL person voting and ICE somehow getting "at" the Illegal THROUGH the legal?

                              It seems INARTFUL at best.

                              Thank you!!

                              woodsmoke
                              Last edited by woodsmoke; Nov 06, 2016, 01:24 PM.

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