krusader!

[wizard10000]

Krusader 2.5.0 is in Neon's repository.

Also in Sid. Just installed - again

[dibl]

Reading this thread, I feel like I'm missing something. Yes, Krusader is a very functional "old school", or maybe "classic" file management tool. But, for Plasma 5 desktop users who need to work with root privileges, what is the problem with enabling kdesu, launching Dolphin with

kdesu dolphin

and splitting the view if you need two panels to work in?

[kubicle]

Reading this thread, I feel like I'm missing something. Yes, Krusader is a very functional "old school", or maybe "classic" file management tool. But, for Plasma 5 desktop users who need to work with root privileges, what is the problem with enabling kdesu, launching Dolphin with

kdesu dolphin

and splitting the view if you need two panels to work in?

1. I guess the primary reason would probably be that the latest dolphin refuses to run as root, it's been disabled in the code. (see https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...anager-problem for discussion)

2. Also, krusader's twin panels are much more functional dolphin's twin-pane view, including shortcuts to copy/move to the other panel etc.

3. Krusader also seems better when working with the keyboard, at least if you are familiar with old-school file managers.

Nothing against people that prefer dolphin, of course

[dibl]

1. I guess the primary reason would probably be that the latest dolphin refuses to run as root, it's been disabled in the code. (see https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...anager-problem for discussion)

Well, yeah I read that a couple days ago, and that quote was from a couple months ago, and then I checked my Debian sid system and saw

root@Hibiscus:/# apt policy dolphin
dolphin:
 Installed: 4:16.08.3-3
 Candidate: 4:16.08.3-3
 Version table:
*** 4:16.08.3-3 500
       500 http://http.debian.net/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
       100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

So, am I about to lose the ability to run Dolphin as root, with kdesu? I see kate is also affected by this master stroke of genius, and I use kate for editing system files.

[kubicle]

So, am I about to lose the ability to run Dolphin as root, with kdesu?

Yes, once you upgrade to dolphin 17.04 (it might be a while until it lands in debian)...and provided that the debian maintainer doesn't strip the code from the source (which is unlikely)

I see kate is also affected by this master stroke of genius, and I use kate for editing system files.

You can use the 'sudoedit' workaround to use kate to edit system files. Iit will not start kate as root, instead it opens kate as normal user and edits a tmpfile, and once you're done, it will copy the tmpfile over the original (as root, but not launching a root GUI).

Unfortunately there is no workaround for dolphin...until they can get the policykit integration in place.

[vinnywright]

Well, yeah I read that a couple days ago, and that quote was from a couple months ago, and then I checked my Debian sid system and saw

root@Hibiscus:/# apt policy dolphin
dolphin:
Installed: 4:16.08.3-3
Candidate: 4:16.08.3-3
Version table:
*** 4:16.08.3-3 500
      500 http://http.debian.net/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
      100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

So, am I about to lose the ability to run Dolphin as root, with kdesu? I see kate is also affected by this master stroke of genius, and I use kate for editing system files.

Kate ,,,so far is unaffected and will run with "kdesudo" @hear ,,,but dolphin has had it's root cut off

KDE-Frameworks-5.33.0

Dolphin-17.03.80

Kate-16.12.3

VINNY

[kubicle]

Kate ,,,so far is unaffected and will run with "kdesudo" @hear ,,,but dolphin has had it's root cut off

KDE-Frameworks-5.33.0

Dolphin-17.03.80

Kate-16.12.3

VINNY

Yes, you have 16.12 kate, and a pre-release 17.04 dolphin (17.03.80), kate will also be affected in 17.04 (or pre-release).

[Snowhog]

Here, in my VM installation of 17.04, I just launched Dolphin 'as root' with kdesudo dolphin. I was told "dolphin needs administrative privileges. Please enter your password." I entered my password and pressed Enter and Dolphin launched with the elevated privileges.

KDE Plasma Version 5.9.4
KDE Frameworks Version 5.31.0
Qt Version 5.7.1
Dolphin version 16.12.3

[vinnywright]

Yes, you have 16.12 kate, and a pre-release 17.04 dolphin (17.03.80), kate will also be affected in 17.04 (or pre-release).

A ,,,yes I see now "Dohh"

on a side note ,,,,,,,Konqueror still runs as root with kdesudo and is closer (looking feeling) to Dolphin than Krusader

VINNY

[kubicle]

Here, in my VM installation of 17.04, I just launched Dolphin 'as root' with kdesudo dolphin. I was told "dolphin needs administrative privileges. Please enter your password." I entered my password and pressed Enter and Dolphin launched with the elevated privileges.

KDE Plasma Version 5.9.4
KDE Frameworks Version 5.31.0
Qt Version 5.7.1
Dolphin version 16.12.3

Yes, because your dolphin version is 16.12. With "version 17.04", I meant KDE Applications 17.04 (not kubuntu 17.04), I should have been more clear about that as similar version numbers are quite confusing.

[GreyGeek]

Here, in my VM installation of 17.04, I just launched Dolphin 'as root' with kdesudo dolphin. I was told "dolphin needs administrative privileges. Please enter your password." I entered my password and pressed Enter and Dolphin launched with the elevated privileges.

KDE Plasma Version 5.9.4
KDE Frameworks Version 5.31.0
Qt Version 5.7.1
Dolphin version 16.12.3

are the icons showing?

[Snowhog]

Well, no. And just launching it again with kdesudo, after Dolphin has been launched, no icons are shown and a message appears: The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly. That message appears in Home, Network, Root, and Trash under Places.

[GreyGeek]

I don't get icons either, but neither do I get any error msgs *from dolphin*.
And, I get a constant flow of pixel map messages in the Konsole from which I opened Dolphin.

[kubicle]

Well, no. And just launching it again with kdesudo, after Dolphin has been launched, no icons are shown and a message appears: The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly. That message appears in Home, Network, Root, and Trash under Places.

This is a different issue (that can be solved). But root will stop functioning in dolphin 17.04. (again that is kde apps version 17.04, not kubuntu version 17.04...I'm not sure whether kubuntu 17.04 will include kde apps 17.04)

[Snowhog]

This is what I see after dolphin has been launched using kdesudo.