Please accept it that I'm not "jumping ship" on Kubuntu.
I try out a lot of different distros just for the halibut and have wanted to try a "rolling release" distro and this one worked, the others balked at the installer usually or I didn't like the interface.
Patience Grasshopper IS THE phrase of the day for this to install if you are around 8 gigs of memory or south of that. I just have two sticks in the bays, and for INSTALLING this I think that four sticks would be much better.
A Radeon 890 and AMD 6 processor.
Anyhoooooo......
There are two downloads for rolling and I took the first.
It burned fine, but there are two highlighted install options for the live DVD and several other lesser lights, the first was "free" and the second "non-free", so I chose free.
the normal run of stuff being put into memory occured.....and then...
ummm............................... nothing............ a cursor and a black screen.
After a while I tried my usual goads, first turning the monitor on and off, that goaded it a little.. clicked the mouse, clicked the space bar..........nada.
After a few minutes a white box appeared at the top saying that Yakuki was available if I wanted to use it.
After several very painful minutes I then swept my hand across the keyboard and suddenly the smatterings of what seemed to be a panel appeared at the bottom but it was unresponsive.
I got a VERY FAINT.................introductory song....very faint...
other than that...
nothing....
shut down and tried the "non-free" .
repeat the above....
both of these activities took maybe 8 minutes each, I KNOW...........I normally "time" all of this kind of stuff
and I don't like to be imprecise about this kind of stuff, but didn't this time because I was expecting things to "just work".
So....AGAIN....repeat the "free"
again.................I got the run of stuff that was being put into memory by the live dvd.
Only this time I got a cuppa joe and sat outside to watch a Great Blue Heron spearing shiners in the creek and wandered back in at odd moments...
Kind of like the experienced Alaska native starting his car in the morning as opposed to the cheechako.... anyway.....
After twenty minutes, it may have been earlier... I sat down to the computer to view a fully developed desktop which has .......a 2/3 length panel centered at the bottom
and four icons on the desktop : my computer, network, readme and install.
i decided to RISK IT ALL!! lol and not "test" anything on the live dvd! ....
I very GINGERLY................moved the very responsive mouse pointer to the insatall button and.....WOAH.
things THEN went at the pace one would expect!
The installer is a modern one, presenting the classic "ubuntu style" bars of "this is what you have and this is what you will get", after that it is fire and forget.
One curious note was that it did NOT ask for access to the internet.
It took maybe twenty minutes to install with some "breezy" notes pages about yada yada.
And done!
GOT A VERY VERY LOUD AND STRONG welcome song.
First thing, I got on the net, and immediately went to MUON to download updates................BIG MISTAKE!!!!!
Muon sat and churned for hours and then returned some kind of crytpic message about broken packages.
Well, during that time, a popup told me that I should do updates so I closed Muon and tried that...only this time, much more quickly, it returned the same message about broken packages.
So, I've never done "pacman" before, so I did a search on the wild wild web and got these at Manjaro wiki:
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Pacman_Tips
In Konsole, one must actually enter one's root password for each operation.
It SAID that it was just going to update ONE item but there were, as of last count, 9 items that had to have the Y key pressed and things things went jiffy quick.
After a few minutes things were done and the desktop presented itself as meek as a little lamb.
Very responsive.
So.............for folks who have been thinking about fiddling with a "rolling release" distro...........I've tried most of them and got nowhere........
Aptosid was one of the best..BAR NONE! ...very very stable and responsive, one had to install codecs, etc, but no biggie.......the forum was not the friendliest but they were always helpful.....But.....for some reason, it is now dormant.
I"m probably not going to post much "about the distro", I mean a distro is a distro and KDE is KDE, except to say that the whole "display" is very "tight" it is SOMEWHAT more like a "gnome" display than KDE but........
..... that may be because it is the "Breeze" style, the setup of menu items have been tweaked a little.
So.............if anyone has questions, please ask....the old woodsmoker is not too bright about all this Linuxy stuff, but I'll answer as best as I can.
Again, not jumping ship, just trying out the rolling release paradigm.
woodsmoke
I try out a lot of different distros just for the halibut and have wanted to try a "rolling release" distro and this one worked, the others balked at the installer usually or I didn't like the interface.
Patience Grasshopper IS THE phrase of the day for this to install if you are around 8 gigs of memory or south of that. I just have two sticks in the bays, and for INSTALLING this I think that four sticks would be much better.
A Radeon 890 and AMD 6 processor.
Anyhoooooo......
There are two downloads for rolling and I took the first.
It burned fine, but there are two highlighted install options for the live DVD and several other lesser lights, the first was "free" and the second "non-free", so I chose free.
the normal run of stuff being put into memory occured.....and then...
ummm............................... nothing............ a cursor and a black screen.
After a while I tried my usual goads, first turning the monitor on and off, that goaded it a little.. clicked the mouse, clicked the space bar..........nada.
After a few minutes a white box appeared at the top saying that Yakuki was available if I wanted to use it.
After several very painful minutes I then swept my hand across the keyboard and suddenly the smatterings of what seemed to be a panel appeared at the bottom but it was unresponsive.
I got a VERY FAINT.................introductory song....very faint...
other than that...
nothing....
shut down and tried the "non-free" .
repeat the above....
both of these activities took maybe 8 minutes each, I KNOW...........I normally "time" all of this kind of stuff
and I don't like to be imprecise about this kind of stuff, but didn't this time because I was expecting things to "just work".So....AGAIN....repeat the "free"
again.................I got the run of stuff that was being put into memory by the live dvd.
Only this time I got a cuppa joe and sat outside to watch a Great Blue Heron spearing shiners in the creek and wandered back in at odd moments...
Kind of like the experienced Alaska native starting his car in the morning as opposed to the cheechako.... anyway.....
After twenty minutes, it may have been earlier... I sat down to the computer to view a fully developed desktop which has .......a 2/3 length panel centered at the bottom
and four icons on the desktop : my computer, network, readme and install.
i decided to RISK IT ALL!! lol and not "test" anything on the live dvd! ....
I very GINGERLY................moved the very responsive mouse pointer to the insatall button and.....WOAH.
things THEN went at the pace one would expect!
The installer is a modern one, presenting the classic "ubuntu style" bars of "this is what you have and this is what you will get", after that it is fire and forget.
One curious note was that it did NOT ask for access to the internet.
It took maybe twenty minutes to install with some "breezy" notes pages about yada yada.
And done!
GOT A VERY VERY LOUD AND STRONG welcome song.
First thing, I got on the net, and immediately went to MUON to download updates................BIG MISTAKE!!!!!
Muon sat and churned for hours and then returned some kind of crytpic message about broken packages.
Well, during that time, a popup told me that I should do updates so I closed Muon and tried that...only this time, much more quickly, it returned the same message about broken packages.
So, I've never done "pacman" before, so I did a search on the wild wild web and got these at Manjaro wiki:
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Pacman_Tips
Updating
Pacman can update your system with only one command:
pacman -Su
Although, it is usually better to sync your repo database first:
pacman -Syu
Pacman can update your system with only one command:
pacman -Su
Although, it is usually better to sync your repo database first:
pacman -Syu
It SAID that it was just going to update ONE item but there were, as of last count, 9 items that had to have the Y key pressed and things things went jiffy quick.
After a few minutes things were done and the desktop presented itself as meek as a little lamb.
Very responsive.
So.............for folks who have been thinking about fiddling with a "rolling release" distro...........I've tried most of them and got nowhere........
Aptosid was one of the best..BAR NONE! ...very very stable and responsive, one had to install codecs, etc, but no biggie.......the forum was not the friendliest but they were always helpful.....But.....for some reason, it is now dormant.
I"m probably not going to post much "about the distro", I mean a distro is a distro and KDE is KDE, except to say that the whole "display" is very "tight" it is SOMEWHAT more like a "gnome" display than KDE but........
..... that may be because it is the "Breeze" style, the setup of menu items have been tweaked a little.
So.............if anyone has questions, please ask....the old woodsmoker is not too bright about all this Linuxy stuff, but I'll answer as best as I can.
Again, not jumping ship, just trying out the rolling release paradigm.
woodsmoke
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