KDE neon

[NoWorries]

I have just been going through my Synaptic repositories and found that I had the entry



After you add this repository and with konsole do: sudo apt update you may find that a key needs to be added. If this is the case, I enter the following

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "KeyNum"

I have found that the original site for neon does not provide the guidance that was originally there when I first did it.

[claydoh]

...or use http://archive.neon.kde.org/user instead of stable or unstable, if you don't want the constant changes involved with the two git-based repos. "User" is only official releases.

[vtpoet]

I have found that the original site for neon does not provide the guidance that was originally there when I first did it.

Yeah, it's not even a question of connecting dots. They, understood as Riddel and his minions (who may or may not be yellow), don't want users adding NEON repos to their Kubuntu install. What that tells us is that despite their denials, they're making their own [cough] distro --- and prefer users to test it. That's okay, but let's be clear about what's going on.

[claydoh]

Yeah, it's not even a question of connecting dots. They, understood as Riddel and his minions (who may or may not be yellow), don't want users adding NEON repos to their Kubuntu install. What that tells us is that despite their denials, they're making their own [cough] distro --- and prefer users to test it. That's okay, but let's be clear about what's going on.

Just to remind everyone that Neon is *not* based on Kubuntu, but like it, it is based on the core Ubuntu foundation.
neon not only provides its Plasma 5 packages but also, and this is almost as important, provides a newer Qt. Remember, Ubuntu is moving to Qt for Unity and this understandably restricts the version that is available to us. A number of bugs are fixed by building plasma against a newer version than we can get.


I think things are quite clear:

http://neon.kde.org/faq

What is KDE neon?

KDE neon is a rapidly updated software repository. Most users will want to use the packages built from released software which will be available soon. KDE contributors and testers can use the packages built from KDE Git. It uses the foundation of the latest Ubuntu LTS (16.04).

Is this "the KDE distro"?

Nope. KDE believes it is important to work with many distributions, as each brings unique value and expertise for their respective users. This is one project out of hundreds from KDE.

How do I add it to my existing installation?

It will be more reliable to do a fresh install from the installable images.

Is it a distro?

Not quite, it's a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. While we plan to have installable images, unlike full Linux distributions we're only interested in KDE software.

Is it a rolling distro?

Not quite, it's a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. Unlike rolling distros only the KDE software will be updated continuously.

What is the difference between KDE neon and using plain Ubuntu?

KDE neon will provide users with more up-to-date packages of Qt and cutting-edge KDE software.

Why Ubuntu?

We use Ubuntu as a base for KDE neon because the KDE neon team feels it offers the best technology as a stable release and the best third party support. The KDE neon team is familiar with Ubuntu having worked with it for over a decade. We also feel that Ubuntu users will miss out if they do not have up to date KDE software. It is otherwise unrelated to the Ubuntu project or Canonical.

Can I turn Kubuntu into KDE neon with a PPA?

We recommend that you install a fresh KDE neon from the provided ISO images. But you can indeed add an APT repository to switch from Kubuntu to KDE neon. This is absolutely not tested or supported. If things take a turn for the worse you are expected to be knowledgable enough to repair your system on your own. A web search should quickly give you relevant information on how to do this.

Is KDE neon an add-on to Kubuntu?

KDE neon sits on top of the Ubuntu core foundations, which means the majority of software built for Ubuntu core will work fine, even when not explicitly supported by the KDE neon team. KDE neon is however not compatible with Kubuntu, as there is vast overlap in the base offerings of both Kubuntu and KDE neon. You can not use both systems at the same time. Installing KDE neon will simply replace Kubuntu.

Can I use a desktop other than Plasma?

This probably won't work (probably won't even install). It most certainly isn't supported even if the desktop installs. KDE neon focuses on KDE software, most other software is not supported and you should not be surprised if you can not install it or it stops working at any point in time due to an update.

Is KDE neon 64bit only?

Yes. As computers without 64bit have become increasingly rare, we have chosen to focus our resources on higher-quality 64bit builds.

[vtpoet]

Yes, I know, they can write and say whatever they want. It's not Kubuntu, but it's based on Ubuntu, but they're not making their own distro, but they don't recommend NEON with Kubuntu.

Whatever.

The difference between NEON and Kubuntu with a PPA backport is that one works with my wireless USB dongle/ Kubuntu and one doesn't/NEON. Might as well install Kubuntu, get a functional wireless connection, then switch to the NEON PPA... er... sorry...."Repository", but not distro, 'cause it's not a distro... And not that I care, just sayin'.

[vinnywright]

well all I know is ,,,,,,,,,running deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/stable/ xenial main in my sources.list on Kubuntu-16.04 is working out just fine @hear,,,,,,,,,,,,for now .

VINNY

[NoWorries]

I agree, and I am enjoying the neon desktop. I find it interesting that what claydoh says helps explain why my launcher has changed to this.

[claydoh]

I agree, and I am enjoying the neon desktop. I find it interesting that what claydoh says helps explain why my launcher has changed to this.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]6567[/ATTACH]

I don't have this in my user edition, so I am guessing it is an upcoming Plasma change, or a test.

[vinnywright]

I do not have that ether.

VINNY

[vinnywright]

Aaaaa I do if I swich to the oxygen desktop theme .....

,aaannnnnddd and now it stays whatever theme I chose

VINNY

[NoWorries]

Glad you worked out how it came about as I did not realize what I had done to get it. My application Launcher with cascading popup menus looks like this and I am very happy with this new look.



Particularly the logout, restart and shut down icons.

[woodsmoke]

vtpoet wrote:

minions (who may or may not be yellow),

woodchucklesmoke

[gnomek]

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "KeyNum"

Didn't work for me with http://archive.neon.kde.org/user. I found here
https://dot.kde.org/2016/01/30/fosde...ncing-kde-neon

wget -qO - http://archive.neon.kde.org/public.key | sudo apt-key add -

and it did the job. When I wanted install from /user edition I had some unmet dependences. Strange. Perhaps I had a mess on my system. But /stable worked very well.

Anyone succeeded switching from developer edition stable to user edition Tech Preview?

Edit:
I switched repositories from developer edition stable to user edition. I was surprised that only one package got updated after this.

/etc/apt/sources.list
deb cdrom:[neon user _Xenial_ - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 20160609-08:40]/ xenial main multiverse restricted universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted universe multiverse

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/neon.list
deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial main
deb-src http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial main

lsb release shows user edition but graphical info still shows developer edition, besides I don't have Neon plymouth with Neon logo. I have only progress line with neon 5.6.4 visible when system starts.