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    Happy birthday Gnome

    GNOME Is Old Enough To Vote

    On Saturday the popular desktop environment GNOME turned eighteen. Always looking for an excuse for chocolate cake and ice cream, this is a birthday I celebrated, even though I’m not a user.

    It’s hard to believe that GNOME is only eighteen, since it seems as if it’s been around forever.

    Back in 2002, when I was new to Linux and giving everything Linux had to offer a test drive, I’d occasionally load-up the GNOME desktop on my Mandrake 9X machine and play with it for a while, but I much preferred the more configurable KDE. Just because I didn’t use GNOME as my desktop, however, didn’t mean that my computing experience wasn’t affected by it. It was there in some of the applications I used daily — the Bluefish text editor comes immediately to mind — which grew out of the GNOME project. And because open source tends to cross-pollinate, it has doubtlessly had a positive effect on the development of Xfce and Enlightenment, which are these days my desktops of choice.

    GNOME was started by two young Mexican programmers, the whiz kid Miguel de Icaza, who had previously created the Midnight Commander file manager and had been an early contributor to WINE, and Federico Mena.

    The project’s original purpose, in large part, was to keep free software free. KDE had begun development the previous year using Trolltech’s then proprietary Qt framework. GNOME was built using the GTK+ toolkit, which had been created for GIMP and was licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). The GNOME desktop was released under the LGPL, with most of its applications licensed under the GPL, making GNOME and its apps totally free software.

    From it’s initial release, many users liked GNOME’s dedication to simplicity and the popularity of the desktop soared during the first decade of the 21st century, making it the most popular — as in most used — Linux desktop by most accounts (with KDE a close second). Indeed, it seemed to be unstoppable until usage waned with the release of the completely redesigned GNOME 3 in 2011, which was not a big hit with much of its user base.

    But even though use of GNOME as it’s shipped out-of-the-box began to decline somewhat with GNOME 3, it would be a mistake to think that the decline was anything but temporary in any real sense. User dissatisfaction with the new direction GNOME was taking led to several notable forks, creating new desktop projects using GNOME code with redesigned interfaces — most notably Unity, MATE, Cinnamon (which is no longer considered to be a GNOME fork) — and those forks introduced many new users to desktops that were essentially “GNOME Inside.”

    In the long term, GNOME’s supposed “missteps” with GNOME 3 and the forks they inspired were good for the Linux ecosystem and have helped do away with the “cookie cutter” aspect to Linux distros. This has allowed distros such as Mint, Ubuntu and now Bodhi (with a fork of Enlightenment) to offer different and unique desktop experiences for their users. In addition, GNOME has been bringing some of it’s old users back to the fold with the inclusion of Classic Mode, introduced in 2013, which has a look and feel that harkens back to the glory days of GNOME 2.

    Development of GNOME continues to roll merrily along, with the latest release (version 3.16, released in March) containing over 33,000 changes. It’s my guess that the project will be with us for many years to come and will continue to be a leader in the development of desktop technologies.

    Happy birthday GNOME.

    source: http://fossforce.com/2015/08/gnome-i...nough-to-vote/

    #2
    Happy birthday to GNOME, indeed.

    Even though I don't use GNOME--I've preferred KDE right from its beginnings--I have to appreciate its place in the *nix world. And like you, Nick, I use some G apps and am glad to have them. gParted immediately comes to mind.

    Two or three years ago, on something of a dare, I decided to try using GNOME and see if I could get it to resemble the HIGHLY customized way I have my KDEs looking/acting. I set up a dummy account and had at it. Since I'm pretty...um...OPINIONATED!!...and truly believed GNOME couldn't hold a candle to KDE, I was kind of shocked by my results. It looked pretty good! There were some things I could not adjust to my liking, but that just bolstered my opinion that it was inferior to KDE. Still, though, it showed me that people who claim that GNOME is perfectly acceptable might actually have a point.
    Last edited by DoYouKubuntu; Aug 18, 2015, 12:55 PM.
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      #3
      My feelings are a bit stronger - I've always hated gnome. I tried it at first, but as a new Linux user found myself constantly frustrated and blocked. I was so turned off I never went back. I use KDE for my desktop and when I create a low-power system I use LXDE or E-17.

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        #4
        Yeah, who gives a hoot about GNOME.
        An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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          #5
          Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
          ...low-power system I use LXDE or E-17.
          You do know that LXDE has been superceded by LXQT and E17 has been superceded by E19?

          Also if KDE is so customisable, why can you not remove the cashew thingy on the desktop?
          Last edited by Guest; Aug 18, 2015, 01:17 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Qqmike View Post
            Yeah, who gives a hoot about GNOME.
            Me.

            I love using all desktop GUI's found in Linux. It is one of the reasons why I love Linux so much beause of its variety of GUI's.

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              #7
              Me.

              I love using all desktop GUI's found in Linux. It is one of the reasons why I love Linux so much beause of its variety of GUI's.
              Makes sense, nothing wrong with that.
              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                #8
                Originally posted by Qqmike View Post
                Yeah, who gives a hoot about GNOME.
                I do! It's part of what makes Linux Linux, you know? CHOICE! A plethora of choice.
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                  #9
                  p = GNOME
                  You mean the choice ¬p !
                  Yes, all about choice
                  An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                    #10
                    you can disable the "cashew" in plasma 5.3
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                      My feelings are a bit stronger - I've always hated gnome. I tried it at first, but as a new Linux user found myself constantly frustrated and blocked. I was so turned off I never went back. I use KDE for my desktop and when I create a low-power system I use LXDE or E-17.
                      Obviously, I haven't needed anything but KDE for awhile, and you can remove the cashew in Plasma 5. You can hide it in Plasma 4.

                      Is the little thingy in the corner that big of a deal really? Not quite the same as the lock-down of Gnome in comparison IMO.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                        Obviously, I haven't needed anything but KDE for awhile, and you can remove the cashew in Plasma 5. You can hide it in Plasma 4.

                        Is the little thingy in the corner that big of a deal really? Not quite the same as the lock-down of Gnome in comparison IMO.
                        I never said it was a big deal that you can't remove the cashew from the desktop. All I said was that if KDE was so customisable why can you not remove it. I had read plenty of comments from KDE users waxing lyrical about how KDE is the most customisable desktop, but you cannot remove the cashew.

                        So how do you hide it in plasma4?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                          ...the lock-down of Gnome in comparison IMO.
                          Who told you that Gnome was locked down? There are plenty of add-ons / widgets for Gnome to make it how you want it. And if one isn't available you can always create one yourself. Just like with KDE.

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                            #14
                            Rog wrote a plasmoid to hide the cashew. I tried to look for it but it may be no longer available. He probably stopped updating it. There was py-cashew and Stealth Cashew (made it transparent) and you reportedly can (or could) delete the plasma-toolbox desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/services and log out and back in and the cashew would be gone. I never tried that last one because I stopped caring about the stupid little thing anyway. I just moved it to the corner and forgot it was there.

                            I disagree with the implication that Gnome is as easy as KDE to modify or has as many options, but you're entitled to your opinion. My experience (not recent by any means) with Gnome has lead me to believe otherwise and I have no interest in trying it again.
                            Last edited by oshunluvr; Aug 19, 2015, 06:21 AM.

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