Mint KDE -- Why not?

[GreyGeek]

OpenSUSE KDE 13.2 and Btrfs

It's default install of root uses B trfs. Strangely, it's /home uses XFS, but it can be switched during the sdetup, which I did, to Btrfs. Here is the result:

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sda1 2048 4208639 4206592 2G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 * 4208640 56676351 52467712 25G 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 56676352 134217727 77541376 37G 83 Linux

jerry@linux-h4tt:~> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
jerry@linux-h4tt:~> vdir /mnt
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1742 Jul 7 21:59 bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 538 Jul 7 22:05 boot
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 21:56 dev
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5028 Jul 7 22:05 etc
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 21:56 home
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2474 Jul 7 22:00 lib
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5078 Jul 7 21:58 lib64
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Sep 25 2014 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Sep 25 2014 opt
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 21:56 proc
drwx------ 1 root root 84 Jul 7 22:06 root
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 21:56 run
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4614 Jul 7 22:02 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Sep 25 2014 selinux
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28 Oct 26 2014 srv
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 21:56 sys
drwxrwxrwt 1 root root 784 Jul 7 22:08 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 130 Oct 26 2014 usr
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 120 Jul 7 22:05 var

jerry@linux-h4tt:~> sudo btrfs subvol show /mnt
/mnt is btrfs root
jerry@linux-h4tt:~> sudo btrfs subvol list /mnt
ID 257 gen 43 top level 5 path boot/grub2/i386-pc
ID 258 gen 43 top level 5 path boot/grub2/x86_64-efi
ID 259 gen 26 top level 5 path opt
ID 260 gen 43 top level 5 path srv
ID 261 gen 48 top level 5 path tmp
ID 262 gen 43 top level 5 path usr/local
ID 263 gen 43 top level 5 path var/crash
ID 264 gen 43 top level 5 path var/lib/mailman
ID 265 gen 43 top level 5 path var/lib/named
ID 266 gen 43 top level 5 path var/lib/pgsql
ID 267 gen 49 top level 5 path var/log
ID 268 gen 43 top level 5 path var/opt
ID 269 gen 49 top level 5 path var/spool
ID 270 gen 49 top level 5 path var/tmp
ID 275 gen 43 top level 5 path .snapshots

jerry@linux-h4tt:~> sudo btrfs subvol list -pau /mnt
ID 257 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 90993b18-f869-2b46-978d-11a2a7290c90 path boot/grub2/i386-pc
ID 258 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 40e7dc91-a2e5-c54a-a856-fc67f399b85c path boot/grub2/x86_64-efi
ID 259 gen 26 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 3b6fa003-166f-ff4a-adea-94eb1edc61e7 path opt
ID 260 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 25dfe971-da9a-754f-b33d-e1bc6c4c7220 path srv
ID 261 gen 48 parent 5 top level 5 uuid b0696002-0d3a-6c47-bca0-4e8909f69fe6 path tmp
ID 262 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 7c580930-b785-3347-9761-9a2d51fa6994 path usr/local
ID 263 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 1e57976a-1562-4948-9317-f473342420ce path var/crash
ID 264 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 9c81b1f8-2acd-d24c-b302-45f979d74bf3 path var/lib/mailman
ID 265 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 3141e57a-b7e9-3d48-8b3c-1699923b835c path var/lib/named
ID 266 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid ff58d3b0-cdcd-f245-a0e6-fd79a43155a1 path var/lib/pgsql
ID 267 gen 50 parent 5 top level 5 uuid cf009db3-510f-0540-abd7-acd42e0aff64 path var/log
ID 268 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid ad464e7d-14a5-a447-8589-97ef420571dc path var/opt
ID 269 gen 49 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 9e20f803-ca00-954e-b157-2541898dbf70 path var/spool
ID 270 gen 50 parent 5 top level 5 uuid f8aba7df-9149-2241-aa2e-28c88b6867cf path var/tmp
ID 275 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid a14dd189-d7b1-134e-9150-4ce05566f895 path .snapshots
jerry@linux-h4tt:~>

OpenSUSE's install is very well written and very powerful.

[ukdave]

IMHO if you want a good solid KDE desktop, opensuse takes some beating not that I want to discredit kubuntu in any way. I alternate between opensuse, debian and kubuntu just to keep in with things KDE.

Cheers
Dave

[GreyGeek]

True, Dave.
I've been looking for a Kubunto replacement in case it goes South by the time my 14.04 LST reaches its EOL. I've looked at JessieKDE 8 and all was great except for its Btrfs scheme, which is non-existent. Btrfs is NOT integrated into the it, just tacked on. Mint KDE doesn't offer Btrfs as a format option so it's out for me.

For the last 19 years Linux has been my main OS, the first five was using SuSE and the last six have been with Kubuntu. Most of the rest was spent using Mandrake-Mandriva, pCLinuxOS, Mephis, KNOPPIX, Libranet, RedHat and several others. I have grown fond of dpkg and *.deb. RPM may now be as good as dpkg but my early experiences with it, especially while using KNOPPIX, left me with a bad impression. I am going to run openSUSE as a guest for a while to see how things have improved, because I am VERY impressed with it's install app and its Btrfs integration.

[GreyGeek]

I found that openSUSE KDE is Plasma 5. I also discovered that Btrfs is integrated hip and thigh into the OS. Snapper is also installed by default and creates pre&post snapshots into /.snapshots every time Apper is run. Even though the installation process created two primary partitions, sda2 and sda3 (swap is sda1), Dolphin show a single united file system in the directory panel. Selecting sda2 in the HD panel only displays caches. Selecting sda3 shows the directory structure. IF you have a big enough HD space the automatic snaapshots (9 so far) shouldn't be a problems. On my 35GB sda3 partition it may be a problem though. Here is the btrfs listing

linux-h4tt:~ # btrfs subvol list -pau /
ID 257 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 90993b18-f869-2b46-978d-11a2a7290c90 path boot/grub2/i386-pc
ID 258 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 40e7dc91-a2e5-c54a-a856-fc67f399b85c path boot/grub2/x86_64-efi
ID 259 gen 26 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 3b6fa003-166f-ff4a-adea-94eb1edc61e7 path opt
ID 260 gen 172 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 25dfe971-da9a-754f-b33d-e1bc6c4c7220 path srv
ID 261 gen 237 parent 5 top level 5 uuid b0696002-0d3a-6c47-bca0-4e8909f69fe6 path tmp
ID 262 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 7c580930-b785-3347-9761-9a2d51fa6994 path usr/local
ID 263 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 1e57976a-1562-4948-9317-f473342420ce path var/crash
ID 264 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 9c81b1f8-2acd-d24c-b302-45f979d74bf3 path var/lib/mailman
ID 265 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 3141e57a-b7e9-3d48-8b3c-1699923b835c path var/lib/named
ID 266 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid ff58d3b0-cdcd-f245-a0e6-fd79a43155a1 path var/lib/pgsql
ID 267 gen 241 parent 5 top level 5 uuid cf009db3-510f-0540-abd7-acd42e0aff64 path var/log
ID 268 gen 43 parent 5 top level 5 uuid ad464e7d-14a5-a447-8589-97ef420571dc path var/opt
ID 269 gen 241 parent 5 top level 5 uuid 9e20f803-ca00-954e-b157-2541898dbf70 path var/spool
ID 270 gen 239 parent 5 top level 5 uuid f8aba7df-9149-2241-aa2e-28c88b6867cf path var/tmp
ID 275 gen 237 parent 5 top level 5 uuid a14dd189-d7b1-134e-9150-4ce05566f895 path .snapshots
ID 276 gen 97 parent 275 top level 275 uuid fe232d8d-13ca-4447-ad42-24e4f6f1802d path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/1/snapshot
ID 277 gen 100 parent 275 top level 275 uuid 8a9b1fc0-fc4f-be4c-92d6-4e4c0e7aabc2 path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/2/snapshot
ID 279 gen 106 parent 275 top level 275 uuid f818988b-1000-1146-8570-5cf017c7ad8a path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/3/snapshot
ID 280 gen 114 parent 275 top level 275 uuid 28849ea7-e28e-fe4f-884b-4e66018738f1 path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/4/snapshot
ID 281 gen 116 parent 275 top level 275 uuid 4c037e12-d6be-0a46-ba08-020b3ee974b8 path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/5/snapshot
ID 284 gen 180 parent 275 top level 275 uuid 01534844-c705-ab4c-8b66-574ef876e187 path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/6/snapshot
ID 286 gen 223 parent 275 top level 275 uuid f1f4c562-88f6-9749-a9f7-35029a94b243 path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/8/snapshot
ID 287 gen 224 parent 275 top level 275 uuid c15f6627-4312-0746-880b-f6bda4014dda path <FS_TREE>/.snapshots/9/snapshot
linux-h4tt:~ #

You will never have to suffer from trying to reverse a bad update or install.

Here is /etc/fstab:

linux-h4tt:~ # cat /etc/fstab
UUID=72eade72-1860-43ed-bc8d-2ad0275f341f swap swap defaults 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 / btrfs defaults 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /boot/grub2/i386-pc btrfs subvol=boot/grub2/i386-pc 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi btrfs subvol=boot/grub2/x86_64-efi 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /opt btrfs subvol=opt 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /srv btrfs subvol=srv 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /tmp btrfs subvol=tmp 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /usr/local btrfs subvol=usr/local 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/crash btrfs subvol=var/crash 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/lib/mailman btrfs subvol=var/lib/mailman 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/lib/named btrfs subvol=var/lib/named 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/lib/pgsql btrfs subvol=var/lib/pgsql 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/log btrfs subvol=var/log 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/opt btrfs subvol=var/opt 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/spool btrfs subvol=var/spool 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /var/tmp btrfs subvol=var/tmp 0 0
UUID=570dcfe9-cf5c-47ce-8241-95d9f269a413 /home btrfs defaults 0 0
UUID=27243103-3957-499e-827e-db115a907765 /.snapshots btrfs subvol=.snapshots 0 0
linux-h4tt:~ #