=SteveRiley;360329]Washed down with a swig of Nebraska's finest moonshine, no doubt.
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PHfft .........their shine dont compare to what you can get hear the Carolinas ,,,,,,,especially if it comes via Tennessee !!
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Analyzing this somewhat more abstractly, what's going on is taste, and with these products the food engineers know YOU-ME (the consumer, the eater, the human in need of some entertainment) very well: salt, spices, and the juicy taste and texture of some fat! The carrier, the substrate, the medium--Spam, Vienna Sausage, potted meat, cardboard, a sliced potato AKA French Fry, or broccoli for tha matter--is immaterial. Think about it. For example, remove the salty taste of these products and you very well might vomit upon TRYING to eat it!
Btw, I'm told by a friend, that in the South (USA), VSs are known as, and here's the phonetic spelling, "V - eye' - enn - ee" sausages (Vi- , a long 'i', as in vine; and the ending 'ee' is a long 'e' as in tree; accent on the 'eye').An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles BukowskiComment
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more like .... Vi - ana @this area of the South
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Oh, back up in Maine it is/was Vi (as in NOT emacs
)-enna as well. There is a town by that name, and that is how that is pronounced as well.
There is a town called Calais as well, but pronounced "callous", even by the French speakers up there. So of course the Oldsmobile car of that name was pronounced like that as well.
Back on topic (maybe), I am hankering for a corned beef hash right now. Straight outta the can.
I was watching an episode of Dirty Jobs once, and they were in a place that made fancy smoked bologna. Basically different varieties of Pink Slime mixed together. Very fancy high grade slime, I guess. Probably tasty as heck, though.Comment
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I'm here to dispel that myth!Originally posted by vinnywright View Postyou can not live for 50+ years and say you have lived a full life without having quaffed down a few hundred cans of these things .........................
Even before turning vegetarian in 1988 I simply had no desire to try those nasty looking things. My only real memory of them has to do with a friend when I was 17. She was in her 20s and was from North Carolina...or Norf Care-a-LINE-a as she would say. She pronounced them VI-enny sausages.Comment
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Grew up on the American meat-and-potatoes diet. You know, the meat and potatoes occupying three-fourths of the plate, with the obligatory veggies on the remaining one-fourth arranged in single layer. And milk and cheese (cheese gets into everything, even your veggies). After growing up
(at age 50), and after having some health problems (I whipped them all), I happily moved onto a diet that is 85-90% vegetarian, and very picky and cautious about how to spend the remaining 12.5% on meat and cheese. That said, there's a fair amount of extreme transgressions among that 12.5%, like the stuff we are talking about here, and hot dogs (Chicago style). It's only rarely, very rarely, but that ghost is alive and well in my psyche. And, fact is, I'm of the old-fashioned opinion that nothing beats a good hamburger, made the way you like it (out here, we use it as an excuse to pile on some warm-to-hot, roasted green chile).
A little stupidstitious here, I said "I whipped them [health issues] all." Well, after a certain point, it becomes clear that we are all dying of the condition called aging. It works like this: being alive --> aging --> death. If you're alive, you're dying. Yeah, it makes sense to make an effort to be as healthy/comfortable as you can as you age, but not to the point that you unnecessarily hold back on all pleasures (risky behaviors tossed in). ("Unnecessarily" because death is coming no matter what you do.) Yesterday, a friend with a growth in the colon, said his doctor said it wasn't cancer but it could be from an underlying condition. Underlying condition! Yeah, like aging. We all have underlying conditions at a certain age! WTH. So satisfice, take your healthy percent from something like Joel Fuhrman, MD, and let it go at that,
Eat to Live
http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazi...an+eat+to+live
Did you all catch this one, from a noted doctor and oncologist, Ezekiel Emanuel (brother of the Chicago mayor), in the news and press recently:
Why I Hope to Die at 75
An argument that society and families—and you—will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...-at-75/379329/
Related, if you really want to push it, another one to read if you are educatin' yaself, and by a noted surgeon, down to the physiological details, the ways, of how the body finally shuts down,
How We Die: Reflections of Life's Final Chapter, New Edition
http://www.amazon.com/How-We-Die-Ref...rds=How+we+die
It sounds morbid, depressing, but it may have the opposite affect, knowing how it's going to play out and come down, no matter what you do--de-mystifying, liberating.
Am I off-topic (again), in my own thread?!An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles BukowskiComment
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Well, I'm 73. By his standard I have only two years left to live. However, I have my own standard. I'll live as long as I live, be it two more years or, like my dad, twenty more years. The important thing isn't how long you live but how happy you are. (And that doesn't mean wealth. The most unhappy people I've met are some of the richest.)
I don't worry about dying because life has a 100% mortality rate, while Ebola has only a 60-70% rate. It's not IF but WHEN. So, why worry about it? You can't change it. Spend so many hours a week exercising? After a few years that adds up, but in the end what difference does it make if the number of years you add exercising equals the number of years you exercised?
Oh, the light at the end of the tunnel is a LOT closer now, but I still can't make out anything.Last edited by GreyGeek; Oct 12, 2014, 08:53 PM."A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
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In general, IMO, it's all about feeling good (or feeling better, if you are trying something to fix an ailment or complaint). After all, isn't that what doctors try to do for you? They try to offer you what they have in their toolbox that might make you feel better, even if it is a placebo. Exercise, diet, meditation, and whatever, also serve that goal: you do it to feel better; if it works, you keep doing it; if it doesn't work, you stop. "Feel better" is a more realistic criteria than "cure everything." You can't cure (stop) the process of dying, or even aging. You try to feel good (or better) for the largest possible percent of time you are living, prior to certain death. To say, at age 80, "I felt pretty good for 95% of my life so far," means you haven't felt very good for 4 years. Is that acceptable? Up to the individual to call that one. Why is alcohol use such a problem among older people (around the world, I think)? (And it causes other problems.) Trying to feel good/better, maybe? If a Vienna Sausage makes you feel good, well, WTH!
As for the article, the main take-away I get is his decision to be very conservative (careful) accepting the offers of the doctors as he ages. It strikes me that 75 is quite young to start thinking that way. The time would vary for every individual. Many people I've known do pretty well until hitting about 80, maybe 83 or 84. Maybe 80 is a better cutoff point for signing up for all the testing, meds, surgeries, and such. My view, even now, is: give me the diagnosis, the Dx, the information about what it is I may have. Then let me think about what I want to do about it, after studying it, and after talking with the doc. (And you better hope the Dx is correct! Have a look at the differential Dx's.)
I think this is not a simple issue!An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles BukowskiComment
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I will incur the wrath of various and sundry.............
Whether God "did it" or evolution "did it"...........is irrelevant.........
All AGENDAS aside...........
Anyone who is on this forum is........by definition..........able to "do research' and the "decide for him/her self...........
all of the bloviating on here aside.........
what seems logical to the person is what the person accepts........
unless one has.......an agenda...
just my thoughts .....of little worth...
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Bloviate is certainly a word you might understand. I had to look it up.An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles BukowskiComment
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Somehow, in the middle of America, I made it to the age of 64 without ever eating Vienna Sausages. However, I am a lover of several of the members of the sausage family of delicacies -- here is my #1 choice: http://www.johnsonville.com/products...ian-links.htmlComment
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Sausages, and certain hot dogs--all good. And made (commercially, by machine) about the same way (i.e., not appetizing to watch). Handmade, maybe a different story. I just bought 2 cans of Vienna Sausages at Wal-Mart this morning, and I'm not sure why!
Tip to hot dog lovers: Whole Foods, their own brand at the meat counter, 1/4-pounders, big, very good (usually 4 in a clear-wrapped tray for about $6). Not that I'm recommending W-F these days--they have revealed to me their share of consumer issues. But their hot dogs are good.An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles BukowskiComment
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Great one woodsmoke, to each their own and all that sausage. Now, where is that Teriyaki spam I had....Originally posted by woodsmoke View PostComment
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Yeah, I had to look that one up too.Originally posted by Qqmike View Post
Anyway, talking of Hot Dogs, I've found these to be quite good and they also go well cut up in spaghetti.
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