Living on the Edge with KDE Project Neon

[ronw]

I wonder if part of any problems with the neon sessions likely are related to the local environment paths, maybe kf5 doesn't like some of the custom paths. I'm tempted to upgrade the laptop to utopic just to find out

Not trying to discourage you from having fun, but Trusty -> Utopic, then adding the Next PPA never resulted in a working desktop for me.

Fresh Utopic install, then adding the Next PPA worked.

[Fintan]

Fresh Utopic install, then adding the Next PPA worked.

I tried that last night. The upgrade with the next PPA went fine, but all I get is a black screen on boot ( I chose sddm at the prompt).

[NoWorries]

I am not sure if you are having the same problem that I am having with Utopic, but I can only get my system to not have a black screen is to choose the recover mode boot option and then select resume.

If this doesn't work, I certainly hope you can find some way to get your system back again.

[Fintan]

Right, I'll have to try that today.

[GreyGeek]

No problems logging in for me.
However, some apps, but not all, that put icons in the system tray when they start up fail to do so because they can't "see" the system tray. But, the continue on and work OK.

[NoWorries]

Glad you got Firefox to work again. I have not had the problems that you are experiencing. My biggest problem with Firefox is related to flash not working correctly particularly on Australian iview. I have found a solution which works on my 14.04 system. I have installed the packages

adobe-flashplugin
pepperflashplugin-nonfree
freshplayerplugin

Unfortunately freshplayerplugin is not available on this system. So I am limited in this regard.

I am still patiently waiting for widgets to be fixed. Every time I get the 83+ updates, my first action is to test the analogue clock. So far it always mis-behaves the same so it gets deleted. The number of widgets is still very sparse and the extra panel that I have installed with the option that Windows can cover always disappears when no window is covering it.

This is a consequence of Living on the Edge.

[GreyGeek]

Even after this morning's update the bug I get consistently after logging into Neon5 is generated when HPLIP fails to find the system tray and doesn't load.

Konqueror is still too unstable to be useful. FF appears to run as usual, as I am using it now from Neon5 to post this msg.

[NoWorries]

Even after this morning's update the bug I get consistently after logging into Neon5 is generated when HPLIP fails to find the system tray and doesn't load.

Konqueror is still too unstable to be useful. FF appears to run as usual, as I am using it now from Neon5 to post this msg.

Yes, I get the same as you regarding HPLIP failure as shown in the attached graphic



I have been able to configure the printer and it works. So you should be able to print all your favourite documents and pictures.

It will be great when all these interface features work. I often wonder what all the updates are fixing when I constantly see no improvement in the widgets and other panel features and behaviour.

I am sure the developers are doing the best they can as what they are involved in is a massive undertaking and they are currently at KDE Plasma Version 5.1.0.

[GreyGeek]

Ya, printing is no problem, and the HPLIP menu option still gives access. I got to thinking ... (uh oh!) I rarely use the HPLIP system tray icon, I might as well remove it and not waste the CPU cycles testing it in the event loop.

[notabug]

I've also added the PPA. Everything so far is okay except that Power Management in Settings does not work. Screenshots will show a lot better than I can explain.



As you'll see in the next screenshot, PowerManagement IS running.



Should I wait hoping that an update will fix this or is there someway to fix it now?

Thanks

[vinnywright]

Did anyone get the hotkeys to work?
Like I'm used to Meta+T to start up Thunderbird and I rely miss this option.

When I set such a short cut and click on Save all seems to go as expected except the progress bar shows 0% before it closes.

same hear ,,,,,,cant get key bindings to work ,,, even print screen>Ksnapshot ,,,,,,,,but I am sure it will come in time

however their is a ~/.project-neon5-kde so some more digging is in order ,,,,,,,,as such things should be set some where in hear ,,,,,yes/no


VINNY

[claydoh]

As Neon is setting up a custom set of environment variables, to keep it separate from stock, I will bet that any issues like these that we see are due to desktop configs being in two different places. I wonder if many of these go away installing KF5 natively (or in a vm)...........

[NoWorries]

Ya, printing is no problem, and the HPLIP menu option still gives access. I got to thinking ... (uh oh!) I rarely use the HPLIP system tray icon, I might as well remove it and not waste the CPU cycles testing it in the event loop.

I was surprised when I booted my system this morning that the HP symbol was in the system tray. I still get the HPLIP Status Service message which I do not exit but put in on the panel. I find it usefull to have quick acces to the HP options to check on the printer status.

[NoWorries]

How I Delayed Screen Locking

I originally installed neon5 about a month ago and I experienced boot problems with this system which also had utopic installed. I decided to do a fresh install of both systems. For neon5, I used the iso file neon5-201408010814.iso.

This is now all working much better and the boot problems are gone. One aspect of neon5 that frustrates me is the need to frequently Unlock the Screen. I thought that I had nailed this problem by de-selecting System Settings > Power Management > Screen Energy Saving as well as Suspend session. This did not solve the problem.

The solution that I have found to work is in System Setting > Display and Monitor > Screen Locking. I have set the value of Lock screen after: to 99 min. It only allows 2 digits and this is the maximum value allowed.

In a home environment I do not need to have the screen locked afte 5 minutes which is what was set originally. I am probably not the first to find this solution, but for those who haven't and are frustrated by this feature, I hope this is of use.

[NoWorries]

Hah, the screen locking.
Try with 0 seconds, it'll morph into Never

Well done - good advice!!!! Go to top of the class.