Lenovo on international security blacklist for firmware backdoors

[tek_heretik]

I build my own stuff, no spyrmware in mine, lol. ;-D

[SteveRiley]

Next time I'm at an airport, I'm going to open a bunch of console windows, cat the entire Linux source tree in each of them, and then walk away from the computer for while to observe people's reactions

[Buddlespit]

Next time I'm at an airport, I'm going to open a bunch of console windows, cat the entire Linux source tree in each of them, and then walk away from the computer for while to observe people's reactions

You're going to end up like that damned security guard at the Atlanta Olympics. We'll be watching you on CNN Breaking News... "Hacker attempts to hijack and bring down Sea-Tac Airport. States it was a misunderstanding. Suspected ties with "Anonymous..."

[Feathers McGraw]

Next time I'm at an airport, I'm going to open a bunch of console windows, cat the entire Linux source tree in each of them, and then walk away from the computer for while to observe people's reactions

Worst idea ever, unless you like being _thoroughly_ searched by security guards? Lol

[oshunluvr]

These people know something. I want full cavity searches. Everyone. Go deep on 'em.

[Feathers McGraw]

*shudder*

[SteveRiley]

Worst idea ever, unless you like being _thoroughly_ searched by security guards? Lol

Depends on what they're offering. If I get to choose my favorite color rubber glove, I might go for it

I build my own stuff, no spyrmware in mine, lol. ;-D

Spyrmware, Tek? Ew........................

[GreyGeek]

I build my own stuff, no spyrmware in mine, lol. ;-D

You wish.

Ken Thompson described the debug code he wrote into the UNIX login code so that every time the code was compiled it would insert his secret login password. http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html (Ken's paper is better described here.)

The next step is to take the bugged binary and compile a C compiler source that has the bug in it. Then take that compiled binary and recompile the C compiler, without the backdoor source code in it, to produce a C compiler that compiles a backdoor into every UNIX login utility even though the source of both the C compiler AND the login utlility show no trace of hacked login code.

There is a counter to that attack:http://www.acsa-admin.org/2005/abstracts/47.html

However, consider that not only can one write an invisible back door into a C compiler, the C compiler rides on an OS that rides on firmware microcode. The same kind of backdoor can be added to a C compiler via the microcode. Just add the code to the microcode assembly source, compile it, etc.....

Who has access to the microcode of the firmware and probably of the CPU microcode as well? Consider where most are made. I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a secure computer, even IF you compile all software yourself from vetted code. But, while all computers have the same security risks below the OS lever, some operating systems are more secure than others at levels above the firmware. That's why I run Linux. Less likely to be hacked into by Joe Scriptkiddy.

[SteveRiley]

I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a secure computer, even IF you compile all software yourself from vetted code.

Alas, I completely agree. We're all basically gambling on trust, to one degree or another.