I started this as a post to this thread : https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...832#post340832
but I decided it was too far afield and would constitute an offensive level of thread-jacking. So I started a new discussion:
Without wanting to start any sort of flame war or lobbing of bombs back and forth...
...I'm rather surprised at the number of people here (this forum) purchasing Apple products or discussing doing so. Were I asked, I would lump Apple in with the likes of Microsoft. I can think of no other corporation more bent on proprietary control of the marketplace. Granted, they produce some decent hardware (reportedly at near-slave conditions via Foxconn), but I personally can't support a vision of total market dominance that Apple clearly strives toward while at the same time producing zero products here in the US. My (obviously incorrect) assumption was that open-source types generally eschew products that are so anti-open anything.
I had concluded from my own informal surveys that Linux hawks were one of three groups: Political, Financial, or Intellectual, or a combination there of.
In my view, Apple is the antithesis of all the above. Clearly there is a fourth group here, but I am unable to define it at this point. I see myself as mostly in the Intellectual group with some Political leanings
The interesting (ironic?) thing is Apple started out as basically two-guys-in-a-garage and Steve Jobs ended up "hating" hackers because they "threatened" his vision. I stopped buying anything Apple in the late 80's about the same time I stopped buying Sony products - and for the same reason: because both companies were clearly trying to force you to invest completely in only their products by introducing artificial incompatibilities with competitors. I believe (but only anecdotally) this lead to or at least contributed to Sony's slide in the consumer marketplace. Remember the "Memory Stick?"
But hey, this is just my likely ill-informed opinion. Y'all have fun with your new toys. I do love my tablet, although it's not an Apple product. It's an Asus. Partially because after you buy it, you can download the boot-unlocker from Asus if you wish. That, and it has a Micro-SD slot and a keyboard dock that has both a full sized SD slot and a USB port along with an extra battery. It functions nicely as both a tablet and a netbook. just this Thanksgiving as we vacationed with our family, my wife's Nexus 4 filled it's sparse memory with photo's and video's. Since we were in a cell and internet dead zone, I grabbed my tablet and transferred the lion's share to my tablet's SD card. My greater hope is that Plasma Active develops into a real possibility for this tablet.
Oh, did you hear? Apple's new iPhone will have a larger screen! <Head explodes because of the news>
And now I wait patiently for repartee!
but I decided it was too far afield and would constitute an offensive level of thread-jacking. So I started a new discussion:
Without wanting to start any sort of flame war or lobbing of bombs back and forth...
...I'm rather surprised at the number of people here (this forum) purchasing Apple products or discussing doing so. Were I asked, I would lump Apple in with the likes of Microsoft. I can think of no other corporation more bent on proprietary control of the marketplace. Granted, they produce some decent hardware (reportedly at near-slave conditions via Foxconn), but I personally can't support a vision of total market dominance that Apple clearly strives toward while at the same time producing zero products here in the US. My (obviously incorrect) assumption was that open-source types generally eschew products that are so anti-open anything.
I had concluded from my own informal surveys that Linux hawks were one of three groups: Political, Financial, or Intellectual, or a combination there of.
Political: Believes strongly in the concept of open-source and a fair market place.
Financial: Believes one should be able to use a computer without the Microsoft "tax" or simply can't afford it.
Intellectual: Seeks to learn more about computers and how they work or wants to create new functionality through digging into the source code.
Financial: Believes one should be able to use a computer without the Microsoft "tax" or simply can't afford it.
Intellectual: Seeks to learn more about computers and how they work or wants to create new functionality through digging into the source code.
In my view, Apple is the antithesis of all the above. Clearly there is a fourth group here, but I am unable to define it at this point. I see myself as mostly in the Intellectual group with some Political leanings
The interesting (ironic?) thing is Apple started out as basically two-guys-in-a-garage and Steve Jobs ended up "hating" hackers because they "threatened" his vision. I stopped buying anything Apple in the late 80's about the same time I stopped buying Sony products - and for the same reason: because both companies were clearly trying to force you to invest completely in only their products by introducing artificial incompatibilities with competitors. I believe (but only anecdotally) this lead to or at least contributed to Sony's slide in the consumer marketplace. Remember the "Memory Stick?"
But hey, this is just my likely ill-informed opinion. Y'all have fun with your new toys. I do love my tablet, although it's not an Apple product. It's an Asus. Partially because after you buy it, you can download the boot-unlocker from Asus if you wish. That, and it has a Micro-SD slot and a keyboard dock that has both a full sized SD slot and a USB port along with an extra battery. It functions nicely as both a tablet and a netbook. just this Thanksgiving as we vacationed with our family, my wife's Nexus 4 filled it's sparse memory with photo's and video's. Since we were in a cell and internet dead zone, I grabbed my tablet and transferred the lion's share to my tablet's SD card. My greater hope is that Plasma Active develops into a real possibility for this tablet.
Oh, did you hear? Apple's new iPhone will have a larger screen! <Head explodes because of the news>
And now I wait patiently for repartee!
, they'd get memory fragmentation. The Macs needed twice the memory of equivalent PCs for this reason. OS X was long overdue, but pressure for this was limited, because the Mac users and developers had effectively lobotomized themselves. Even OS X was still very slow when I supported an elderly friend who had one a few years ago.
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