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    "open source collaboration" words on national telly

    Well um ....not national telly, that was just a RUSE to get you to read this.

    Actually the HOLY GRAIL WORDS "open source collaboration" were said twice on.....

    Greta van Sustern's show on Fox.

    OH HORRORS!!! Most LInux people take it as a matter of principle to NEVER sully their eyes with a view of FNC.

    However, it was about the Obamacare website and what is wrong with it.

    I provide below the only written, viewable, verbiage about an interview with the man.

    Russ Reeder CEO of Media Temple was first interviewed by CNN TWO WEEKS AGO!!!!

    This guy, and his people have viewed the code.

    Howeever, on van Sustern this is the general flow of the discussion.

    "the commentary of the developers is still in the code and a typical example is from a new bachelor's graduate that did not even have a degree in coding"

    " the code is very messy and not efficient, recursively calling for the same input multiple times, looping back on itself, like the password.

    ( above two quotes are woodsmoke's general report of what was said) " I was caught off guard!

    van Sustern asked him if it was really a thing of one problem in the code generates two problems and those generate four problems, like a disease as it were.

    And how to fix it.

    And then he said it:

    "The state exchanges, usually for businesses, were rolled out slowly and tested in targeted ways and that should have been done with the national website".

    van Sustern again asked: "then how can the national site be fixed?

    Russ Reeder: "they should use open source with a lot of people open source collaboration wherein many, many people can look at the code and advise on it in a collaborative manner...

    that is how the states did it!"



    The bolded is a very accurate quote, I was caught off guard and the middle part may be off in a couple of words but it is mostly correct.

    Here is the link to the CNN text:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/08/politi...site-glitches/

    We probably should NOT get off onto the fact that he basically made the comments to CNN WEEKS ago and ...

    and the White House, and HHS and the lamestream media have not reported it.

    If one does a search using various terms this was off the radar of everybody except CNN and an obscure Washington newspaper.

    Media Temple, powering more than 1 million websites

    The import of this post is the mention of the GOLDEN WORDS on the largest news program on cable.

    woodsmoke

    #2
    I thought Fox News was lamestream media.
    Linux because it works. No social or political motives in my decision to use it.
    Always consider Occam's Razor
    Rich

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      #3
      lol you should maybe actually WATCH it over an extended period of time while also watching other stations and compare the two.

      I completely AGREE that the "commentary" of people such as Hannity is FAR RIGHT.....

      However, van Sustern, especially, has a valid and long history as being a "hard nosed" reporter.

      And, contrary to what the people who have NEVER WATCHED......"on principle".... O'Reily........SAY...

      He regularly, and equally bashes the "far right" AND the "far left"....

      And although he may have a "commentary" (he is ..... after all ...a commentator )..... that comes off as "conservative"....his himself says that he is "liberal" on some things...

      IMMEDIATELY after his "commentary"..........after the advertising....

      He "at least" has a "left" commentator and a "right" commentator to debate him on what he says...

      Usually, he has ONLY a LEFT commentator to argue with him.

      He has had people such as Al Sharpton on there regularly to debate points....

      The Rev. Al is about as far left as you can get....

      How many times have you seen that high a profile and that far of a "righty" REGULARY on the lame stream media to debate a commentator?

      Not referring to you, but generaly speaking the people who "hate / dismiss" O'Reilly would also say.....

      "If you don't vote then don't complain about the politican".

      You may have noted that I regularly post items from CNN, Huff Post, NYT, etc. I don't necessarily "like" them but I DO read them.

      That is the ONLY way that one can, in my lowly opinion, stay completely informed.

      I would humbly suggest that the same would apply to people who dismiss Fox and PROUDLY say that they have never watched it "on principle".

      BUT.....that is really not the point of the thread

      The point is the golden words

      woodsmoke
      Last edited by woodsmoke; Oct 23, 2013, 07:01 PM.

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        #4
        I have watched FOX and O'Reilly. Just not to my taste. I also listen to NPR and regularly catch many outlets on a newsfeed. None of these "news" TV shows have much news. They are opinion pieces. While I do watch MCNBC there are certain shows, and that is what they are, I do not. Sharpton, Ed Scultz, O'Donnell are even too left for me.

        It was amusing to watch FOX on election night with their reporters questioning the call of their own analysts.

        Bottom line is that people tend to watch what reinforces their own opinions.
        Linux because it works. No social or political motives in my decision to use it.
        Always consider Occam's Razor
        Rich

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          #5
          "Bottom line is that people tend to watch what reinforces their own opinions."

          richb, exactly correct.
          An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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            #6
            Okaaay
            but what about the guy's statement about open source to be used to fix the ACA website?

            woodsmoke

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              #7
              This is not the intent of the tread but it follows on the previous comments about Fox.

              I was watching a Supernatural marathon and flipping to news stuff and flipped to Grea von Sustern and.....

              The title of her show is "On the Record"..

              She said this is off the record ok....

              And then spent four minutes telling the Repbulicans that they should stop "piling on" to Sibelius because she said to a question about her resigning that the people who were calling for her resignation was not who she worked for.

              And then followed on saying that "everybody has a gaff once in a while" and that they should let it go.

              This follows on a previous comment by Sibelius, a few days earlier, wherein she said that she "serves at the pleasure of the President".

              So....according to people who "never watch Fox on principle"... Greta just slapped the people that they say she caters to.

              As to Fox "being a conservative mouthpiece"

              Fox News Liberals

              Fox News is accused of being blatantly biased towards the right, during its supposedly non-partisan news reports. These false accusations stem from alledged injection of opinion in news stories, selectively preventing liberals a chance to be represented on the channel, and support for high ranking Republican Party members.

              Opponents to this theory cite the fact that

              Fox News parent company News Corp. overwhelmingly donates campaign contributions to Democrats [10]

              and the network employs the following liberals:

              Juan Williams
              Alan Colmes
              Kirsten Powers
              Shepard Smith
              Geraldo Rivera
              Mara Liasson
              Bill Schulz
              Susan Estrich
              Bob Beckel
              Santita Jackson
              Simon Rosenberg
              Howard Kurtz


              A 2009 national survey showed that 46% of those who watch FOX News “just about every day” are Democrats or Independents.

              Dick Morris interpreted the numbers and determines, "Could it be that the Obama Administration is concerned about FOX News not because it is 'an arm of the Republican Party' but because it is so widely seen among Democrats and Independents?"
              Now........... Juan Williams especially has been EXCORIATED by "the left" as being an OREO.

              if somebody disagrees play the race card.

              Conservatives argue that Fox's real ethos is not Republican or conservative,

              but anti-elitist —

              a major reason it connects with so many Americans and annoys so many coastal elites. "There's a whole country that elitists will never acknowledge," Ailes once observed. "What people resent deeply out there are those in the 'blue states' thinking they're smarter."
              A recent comprehensive study by UCLA political scientist Tim Groseclose and University of Missouri-Columbia economics professor Jeffrey Milyo found Brit Hume's Special Report — Fox's most straightforward news show — more centrist than any of the three major networks' evening newscasts, all of which are liberal. [7] The program is a model of smart news television.
              As to Fox being "anti-homosexual"
              Currently, the Fox Broadcasting Company website declares concerning the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (NLGJA):
              “ NLGJA Annual Conference and Job Fair

              Fox News is a regular exhibitor at these annual Job Fairs. News Corp sponsored the opening reception for first time attendees in 2006, as well as sponsoring workshops on Journalism in various colleges in 2007.[28]
              Bill O'Reilly says he is a practicing Catholic but:

              On February 11, 2004, Bill O'Reilly, host of The O'Reilly Factor on the Fox News Channel, featured Kevin Jennings, the executive director of GLSEN (the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network.) Jennings, former teacher turned homosexual activist, along with a lesbian counterpart, discussed GLSEN's new pro-homosexual curriculum on marriage being marketed to children and youth in public schools all across America under the guise of "tolerance."...

              O'Reilly, watched heavily by conservatives and Christians alike,

              shocked much of his constituency on September 3, 2002 when he publicly announced his support of homosexual rights in the nation's largest “gay” publication, The Advocate. His sympathetic, lenient views on “gay” adoption and his mixed-message stance on “gay” marriage have caused great dissent among his loyalists - and no doubt cost him viewers
              Sooooo maybe not watching a station because somebody else ( who will tell you that he or she is very smart - and by implication you are not....) says not to .......... might be worth reconsidering.

              just a thought.

              Ahem..... the link.............EXPOSING THE LEFTIES AND OTHER SINS OF FOX IS:

              http://www.conservapedia.com/Fox_News_Channel

              woodsmoke

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                #8
                Sorry I cannot buy that FOX is not a Conservative mouthpiece, as I cannot buy that MSNBC is a not Liberal mouthpiece. For the most part that is. The slant is there regardless of who they employ. The main characters are conservative on Fox and liberal on MSNBC with some exceptions.
                Linux because it works. No social or political motives in my decision to use it.
                Always consider Occam's Razor
                Rich

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                  #9
                  right..........."the characters".... not the hard news....

                  But... one might notice... that the guy who ran the prime spot 5:00 hard news, he has moved to being a producer, Shepherd Smith is a declared liberal.

                  but anyway, the original intent of the thread is that the most watched station had two uses of the term "open source" placed in context on prime time.

                  woodsmoke

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                    #10
                    Granted.
                    Linux because it works. No social or political motives in my decision to use it.
                    Always consider Occam's Razor
                    Rich

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by woodsmoke View Post
                      but what about the guy's statement about open source to be used to fix the ACA website?
                      The faults have nothing to do with the choice of development platforms. There are two major root causes: (1) way too many agencies, and (2) a failure to think about scale. Software engineering for the scale required by this project is a rare skill; furthermore, at such scale, people reliably underestimate compute and storage requirements. Don't blame the problems here on technology. It's absolutely a people problem.
                      Last edited by SteveRiley; Oct 26, 2013, 12:20 AM.

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                        #12
                        good thought SR! as usual!

                        woodsmoke

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