Kwheezy looks interesting...

[tek_heretik]

http://www.kwheezy.com/en/

Gunna give it a test spin, see what the 'deal' is, as soon as the torrent is finished, check this thread in 2014, lol.

[tek_heretik]

This is just for starters...it doesn't 'see' my RAID (big no-no, huge), it has waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many extra things starting by default (like I don't own an HP printer, why do I need to see their smarmy icon in the system tray?), the desktop theme is kinda ugly, dark is depressing, and those quick launch icons over by the Kmenu, rekonq AND Firefox...why? Meh, nice idea basing it on Debian (while am on that subject, they will have to change the name eventually, Wheezy won't be around forever) but not my cup of tea.

[67GTA]

Thanks for saving me the bandwidth. I was going to grab it this weekend and test it. I think a lot of us are looking for Kubuntu replacements in case mir crashes the ship. I've got Korora 19 running in Virtualbox. It is pretty nice compared to Kubuntu if you can get past the new anaconda installer.

[tek_heretik]

in case mir crashes the ship

Mir? Who dat?

[SteveRiley]

KDE 4.8.4, kernel 3.2... too old. Siduction plus their kde-next repository will keep you much more current.

[tek_heretik]

KDE 4.8.4, kernel 3.2... too old. Siduction plus their kde-next repository will keep you much more current.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?! Are ya trying to get rid of me Steve? Lol, just kidding, I am quite happy with Kubuntu but old habbits (test spinning distros) die hard. Besides, EVERY Debian based distro doesn't 'see' my RAID for some reason, probably because they don't have any RAID related packages starting by default, I tried a few years ago to get a Debian flavour to work, it was just too much trouble and headaches, I have to admit WinDOHS spoiled me to a degree, heh. ops:

[tek_heretik]

Thanks for saving me the bandwidth. I was going to grab it this weekend and test it. I think a lot of us are looking for Kubuntu replacements in case mir crashes the ship. I've got Korora 19 running in Virtualbox. It is pretty nice compared to Kubuntu if you can get past the new anaconda installer.

I just researched the whole XMir/Mir thing, gawd, nobody can leave anything alone...if it aint broke...good thing I am sticking with the last LTS for a while, I'll let the guinea pigs test the next XMir/Mir inundated LTS release.

[tek_heretik]

KDE 4.8.4, kernel 3.2... too old. Siduction plus their kde-next repository will keep you much more current.

Since you suggested it, for schizz n giggles, I'm gunna give it a spin.

[tek_heretik]

KDE 4.8.4, kernel 3.2... too old. Siduction plus their kde-next repository will keep you much more current.

Very interesting distro and it seems well put together, the strangest thing though, no package manger when booted live from the optical drive, I even managed to get a root terminal open through root krusader/F2 and tried apt-get, keeps saying packages (kinfo, synaptic, firefox, etc) not available, weird, all I wanted to do was install a system information utility and see what it said. It did 'see' my RAID though, and I had to fight with it to access my NTFS storage drive, a permission thing in Dolphin, once again root krusader came to the rescue. I'll tell ya one thing, nice distro but NOT for newbs, I know my way around, the beginner crowd will not gravitate towards Siduction. The rolling release aspect makes it very attractive. It ran well and wasn't overly bloated.

Edit: Oops, forgot to mention the boot screen splash animation, it's an erupting volcano as opposed to the standard KDE bootsplash, repetitive but hilarious.

[dibl]

the strangest thing though, no package manger when booted live from the optical drive, I even managed to get a root terminal open through root krusader/F2 and tried apt-get, keeps saying packages (kinfo, synaptic, firefox, etc) not available, weird,

There's a package manager included -- it's called apt. :grin:

Debian stable recommends aptitude, but siduction sticks strictly with apt, because of the developmental nature of the sid repo. It's also important to get out of X and shut it down before running dist-upgrade, in case video packages get upgraded. The reasons are explained somewhere in their manual, which is really good and not terribly lengthy -- it's worth a 15-minute review before you install it and try to work with it.

Because siduction is Debian, they follow DFSG strictly, and don't enable the contrib and non-free repos. The latest installer does let you enable them during installation, previously you had to install first, then enable those repos, then get your iceweasel browser and stuff.

Even though it is named "unstable", it is not inherently unreliable if you follow just a couple of common-sense rules. The system I'm writing on at the moment was installed in early 2011 and has been continuously updated since then. It's KDE 4.11 today.

As for newbies using it, I would advise considering it from two angles:

1. Newbs who need a stable and reliable OS so they can get on with their work should steer clear and stick with *buntu.

2. Newbs who want to learn all about Debian Linux, working with the newest packages available, should read the manual, use the forum to check out their hardware, and then give it a spin.

[jpenguin]

KDE 4.8.4, kernel 3.2... too old. Siduction plus their kde-next repository will keep you much more current.

I like my fedora install

[jpenguin]

You will be ignored.

:-) Kubuntu is great, I needed a change. Still use KDE, and Fedora has a large repo with rpmfusion/rpmsphere

[tek_heretik]

:-) Kubuntu is great, I needed a change. Still use KDE, and Fedora has a large repo with rpmfusion/rpmsphere

Fedora is the testing ground for software Redhat later applies slight changes to and calls their own. I also found many RPM based distros have endless dependency and other issues, it may be 'bleeding edge', but to me it's not worth the headaches. Kubuntu is a happy medium, polished, stable, strong support base, etc.

Edit: What happened to Gnome in Fedora?!

[jpenguin]

Gnome is still the default, I just use the KDE spin.

Anyway, Kweezy looks like a good/stable OS- I want cutting-edge though

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[SteveRiley]

I also found many RPM based distros have endless dependency and other issues

Is this still a fair comparison to make? I haven't yet been able to break my openSUSE Tumbleweed build. My suspicion is that many of the DEB vs RPM arguments are now pretty much ancient history.