Window position creep in Quassel IRC client - WORKAROUND

[Snowhog]

Here, when launching Quassel, instead of positioning itself (main window) to the upper-left corner (position 0 0), it appears at position 2 xx, and increments by 2 pixels every time it is relaunched.

I filed a bug on Launchpad (Bug #1153064) back in March but it hasn't even been assigned, and no one else has even commented on it. If anyone here uses Quassel and is observing this behavior as well, please go to the bug and post your comments/observations.

Thank you.

[SteveRiley]

Hm, weird. You could possibly work around this by manually configuring window-specific settings. Resize and position the window to your liking. Then right-click the title bar, choose More Actions | Special Window Settings, and click the Size and Position tab. Select Position and choose Remember from the neighboring drop-down. Do the same for Size. Click OK to create and save this new KWin rule for Quassel.

[Snowhog]

Hm, weird. You could possibly work around this by manually configuring window-specific settings. Resize and position the window to your liking. Then right-click the title bar, choose More Actions | Special Window Settings, and click the Size and Position tab. Select Position and choose Remember from the neighboring drop-down. Do the same for Size. Click OK to create and save this new KWin rule for Quassel.

This does not work -- tested. The size isn't the problem, and never has been. The positioning however, is. Even with the Remember option checked, Quassel (or KWin) isn't honoring the setting; the pixel creep still occurs. More intriguing is that even with this window rule, after launching Quassel (and observing the creep), looking at the window rule shows that the position geometry has not changed -- it remains 0,0.

[SteveRiley]

What if you remove the window positioning entries in quasselclient.conf? Perhaps those are overriding the KWin rule.

[Snowhog]

Removing ~/.config/quassel-irc.org/quasselclient.conf and launching Quassel, the main window is positioned as per the window rule. This is what the re-created config file contains immediately after launch:

[Config]Version=1


[CoreAccounts]
LastAccount=0
1\General\BufferViewOverlay=@Variant(\0\0\0\t\0\0\0\x1\0\0\0\x2\0\0\0\0)


[Session]
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\_sessionAge=0
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinSize=@Size(1340 900)
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinPos=@Point(0 0)
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinState="@ByteArray(\0\0\0\xff\0\0\0\
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\xff\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0)"
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinGeometry="@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\
xcb\0\x1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x5;\0\0\x3\x83\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x5;\0\0\x3\
x83\0\0\0\0\0\0)"
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinMinimized=false
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinMaximized=false
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinHidden=false

And after quitting Quassel and launching it again (where the creep first appears):

[Config]Version=1


[CoreAccounts]
LastAccount=0
1\General\BufferViewOverlay=@Variant(\0\0\0\t\0\0\0\x1\0\0\0\x2\0\0\0\0)


[Session]
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\_sessionAge=1
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinSize=@Size(1340 900)
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinPos=@Point(0 0)
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinState="@ByteArray(\0\0\0\xff\0\0\0\
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\xff\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0)"
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinGeometry="@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\
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x83\0\0\0\0\0\0)"
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinMinimized=false
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinMaximized=false
10dbd3cf61000137020355300000019440058\MainWinHidden=false
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\_sessionAge=0
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinSize=@Size(1340 900)
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinPos=@Point(2 23)
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinState="@ByteArray(\0\0\0\xff\0\0\0\
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\xff\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0)"
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinGeometry="@ByteArray(\x1\xd9\xd0\
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10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinMinimized=false
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinMaximized=false
10dbd3cf61000137020446800000019440060\MainWinHidden=false


[QtUi]
MainWinSize=@Size(1340 838)
MainWinPos=@Point(2 23)
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MainWinMaximized=false
MainWinHidden=false
LastUsedBufferId=5
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ActiveBufferView-1=0

[kubicle]

Switch to konversation :P
(I'm aware that's a crappy answer)

[vinnywright]

yup doing the same @hear (Kubuntu 12.10 Quassel-v0.8.0) ,,,,,,,never used it befor but yup it dose as you describe ??

VINNY

PS , the help box sead to report bugs hear,,,,http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/

[vinnywright]

just added to your bug report that it happens @hear as well

VINNY

[Snowhog]

Thanks for confirming and adding to the bug report.

[SteveRiley]

This is really weird. Snowhog, what if you change the KWin rule from "remember" to "force"?

[Snowhog]

Still no difference - the creep remains, even with the option Force set. I'm not quitting KDE (log out and log back in) after making the changes, and I don't think I have to.

[vinnywright]

choose More Actions | Special Applacation Settings, and click the Size and Position tab. Select Position and choose Force from the neighboring drop-down. Do the same for Size. Click OK to create and save this new KWin rule for Quassel,,,,,,,,,

this has it sticking for me ......

VINNY

[Snowhog]

Yes, that does work (setting a Special Application Rule), but what I find (still) intriguing is that Quassel continues to update the quasselclient.conf file, with the creep setting included.

This has to be a genuine bug, and hopefully it will be triaged and fixed. In the mean time, I have a kluge that works to prevent the creep. I just set the immutable file attribute bit on quasselclient.conf:

sudo chattr +i quasselclient.conf

The file can't be modified, even by root, unless the attribute is removed.

[claydoh]

Switch to konversation :P
(I'm aware that's a crappy answer)

Yes, that is

[SteveRiley]

Switch to konversation :P
(I'm aware that's a crappy answer)

Yes, that is

But it has the advantage of not being a creepy answer!

BWHAHAHAHA