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    #16
    Originally posted by bsniadajewski View Post
    That's because unlike Italian, Ther is nothing after the r, hence, r goes at the end.

    In America, route is either (root) or (raut). It's wierd (from my perspective) that you use (uh) to represent the oo as in root whereas I see it as the u in gut.

    Plus, I've never seen "compost" being spelt compoust anywhere in the USA.
    The latter part of my post is all about pronunciation. So, while it's not spelled "compoust", it's pronounced like "compoust".
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      #17
      Originally posted by claydoh View Post
      and don't leave out Aussies
      #10 in that list is just insane. Eight O's in one word? What a waste of letters!

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        #18
        Originally posted by whatthefunk View Post
        What this comes down to is a crappy alphabet which was forced on Americans by their colonial overlords. The alphabet used by English is not made for English and does a piss poor job of representing all the different sounds found in the language.
        So let's think about this for a moment. English is essentially a hacked together language, full of borrowed and stolen bits from elsewhere. It's also the best the world has for what amounts to a global language. Over the centuries, English adapts, jettisoning useless parts and acquiring better ones. It evolves and grows like an organism, but it also exhibits mistakes, because evolution isn't perfect. And languages that fail to adapt meet the same evolutionary fate: death.

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          #19
          @HalationEffect

          If we dropped the u from "buoy", there might be some confusion if we started talking about "boys" in the river.

          @Shimapan

          If we're going to talk about u's, what about the British and their syllable-final r's. WHy have 'em if you're not going to say 'em. (notice the bold r's?)
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            #20
            English spelling is a crock. Complaining about American spelling is like criticizing the shade of brown of a piece of ****.

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              #21
              Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
              So let's think about this for a moment. English is essentially a hacked together language, full of borrowed and stolen bits from elsewhere. It's also the best the world has for what amounts to a global language. Over the centuries, English adapts, jettisoning useless parts and acquiring better ones. It evolves and grows like an organism, but it also exhibits mistakes, because evolution isn't perfect. And languages that fail to adapt meet the same evolutionary fate: death.
              All languages are hacked together from other languages and evolve. The problem with English is that the English never bothered to make their own alphabet. A lot of Asian alphabets are more-or-less perfect. One symbol has one sound with very few exceptions. In English, one symbol can have dozens of sounds with no rules about how to produce the sounds from the spelling. Its crap. Im going to write my senator and ask for a new alphabet.

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                #22
                Originally posted by bsniadajewski View Post
                @HalationEffect

                If we dropped the u from "buoy", there might be some confusion if we started talking about "boys" in the river.
                You might think that, but here in the UK where we pronounce "buoy" properly (same as "boy"), we experience no such confusion thanks to an appreciation and understanding of context.

                There's no sane reason why "buoy" shouldn't be pronounced the same as the first syllable of "buoyant", as the words obviously have the same root. I'm just asking for consistency... either say "boy" and "boyant", or say "boo-ey" and "boo-ey-ant"*.

                *Try saying "boo-ey-ant" or "boo-ey-ancy" out loud, and it should sound as silly to you as "boo-ey" sounds to me
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by whatthefunk View Post
                  Im going to write my senator and ask for a new alphabet.
                  Let us know how that turns out for you, mmkay?

                  Actually, I hope it fails. Otherwise, we'd have to endure no end of posts by our dear Woodsmoke, kvetching about the "elites" on the "coasts" shoving "newletters" into the faces of the "regulars" in "flyover country"

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                    #24
                    Enough with the "u" laments, already! More about "o"s: if we pronounce words, then aren't we getting pronunciation wrong?

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                      #25
                      Y gys r jst pln gfy. Whthr r nt w rmv r dd vwls sn't rlly mprtnt. Bt jst fr gggls nd grns, ths rply s sns ny vwls.


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                        #26
                        Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                        Let us know how that turns out for you, mmkay?

                        Actually, I hope it fails. Otherwise, we'd have to endure no end of posts by our dear Woodsmoke, kvetching about the "elites" on the "coasts" shoving "newletters" into the faces of the "regulars" in "flyover country"
                        Hahaha....good one. Well just have to make sure the new alphabet emerges from the heartland and spreads towards the coasts.

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                          #27
                          English:
                          Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
                          But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
                          Vowels removed:
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                            #28
                            Vowels removed, converted to l33t then converted to hex, finally gziped:

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                              Vowels removed, converted to l33t then converted to hex, finally gziped:



                              We are such geeks.
                              Vowels removed, converted to l33t, converted to hex, gziped, and then cold-filtered for drinking pleasure:
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                                #30
                                Damn, now I'm thirsty.

                                /me gets a gin tonic

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