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    You own a Cisco/Linksys home router? You're going to boil at this news!

    http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/cis...-out-of-t.html

    Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.


    They say that "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product." But increasingly, even if you do pay for the product, you're still the product, and you aren't allowed to own anything. Ownership is a right reserved to synthetic corporate persons, and off-limits to us poor meat-humans.
    I am so angry I could spit nails. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    This explains in a nutshell why I believe corporate America is a greedy abomination. Add this to the fact that the SCOTUS recently approved, for the second time, no-limit to corporate bribing in politics. Thus, a couple million dollars placed into the hands of corrupt officials nullifies the votes of millions of citizens. Why vote?

    That aside. I can still vote with my wallet. I recently purchased a Cisco Linksys E2500 home router. I am going to download and install DD-WRT on it, IF I can do an admin login on it, which I haven't tried yet. If I can't get admin rights without jumping through their hoops I will drill a hole through the box and mail it back to Cisco with a note explaining why they will NEVER get another dollar from me.

    EDIT:
    Cisco is apparently getting its ears burned off and has "retreated", in lanuage only, somewhat:
    http://blogs.cisco.com/home/answerin...connect-cloud/
    Cisco Systems said a privacy policy for the Cisco Connect Cloud service that alarmed some customers was a mistake and has been removed.
    Mistake indeed, but most definitely not accidental.

    https://www.networkworld.com/news/20...6.html?hpg1=bn

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07...oudy_for_some/

    For those who did get "updated" a rollback was posted by Cisco:
    http://www6.nohold.net/Cisco2/ukp.as...0&cpage=search

    BTW, if you can follow the instructions given to show how to roll back the "upgrade" (which is for Windows only) you can also goto the DD-WRT website and follow their instructions to burn DD-WRT onto your wireless router.

    Regardless, Cisco will never get another chance to hoodwink me.

    EDIT-EDIT:
    After reading Cisco's "purpose" and original intent I've began to wonder if this wasn't an experiment to establish some sort of surveillance & tracking via routers that government officials might access at any time. It amounts to nothing less than the classic "Man-in-the-middle", with the "man" being a government agency. They wouldn't have to subpoena your bank account number and password when they can just pick it out of your Internet data stream. I'm reminded of the National Security Letters and their secrecy. Cable modems could be used in the same way.
    Last edited by GreyGeek; Jul 04, 2012, 06:34 PM.
    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

    #2
    I have a Linksys WRT54GL, and am not affected by this. Why you may ask? Because I replaced it's firmware a few years ago with Tomato. Take that Cisco!
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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      #3
      I think we installed DD-WRT here, so we're good.

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        #4
        Thanks for the warning!

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          #5
          This creepy crap is giving cloud computing a bad name. I will continue, in every presentation and speech I give, to push for open standards, visibility, and unambiguous statements regarding data ownership: namely, any cloud that doesn't guarantee customer ownership of data is no cloud that deserves your business.

          John Chambers has got to go, he's ruining that company.

          I wish I wouldn't have plunked $500 into small-office gear from them a few months ago!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
            I have a Linksys WRT54GL, and am not affected by this. Why you may ask? Because I replaced it's firmware a few years ago with Tomato. Take that Cisco!
            Here's one guy's hacking of Linksys routers:
            http://aruljohn.com/info/linksys/
            Boot Info Script

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              #7
              Am I correct to understand that this does not affect wired routers from Cisco/Linksys?
              Last edited by notabug; Jul 04, 2012, 09:19 PM.
              Linux User #454271

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                #8
                Originally posted by notabug View Post
                Am I correct to understand that this does not affect wired routers from Cisco/Linksys?
                The annoucement mentions Smart Wi-Fi Routers, which for now includes the EA2700, EA3500, and EA4500. But who knows how far it'll eventually extend.

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                  #9
                  Thanks SR. I have a BEFSR81, but I'm using it as a switch connected to a D-Link wireless, so hopefully I'll be okay.
                  Linux User #454271

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                    #10
                    Yet another reason to get a Raspberry Pi (or something similar) and roll your own router/firewall. The Model B has an Ethernet NIC that you'd point north. For the south-facing interface, use a wireless USB if you want an access point or an Ethernet USB if you want a wired router. Corresponding software would be some iptables configuration for routing and HostAPD for access points.

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                      #11
                      Like anyone needed an additional reason to dislike Cisco...

                      http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...one-mans-life/
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by HalationEffect View Post
                        Like anyone needed an additional reason to dislike Cisco...

                        http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...one-mans-life/
                        WOW, just wow! Does Cisco not realize this bad 'press' will circulate around the IT/geek crowd?! Corporations have way too much power these days, politicians are just puppets of corporations, be afraid, be very afraid.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tek_heretik View Post
                          Corporations have way too much power these days, politicians are just puppets of corporations, be afraid, be very afraid.
                          Precisely.

                          Now then, how do we fix this? Whenever a government representative attempts to tilt a little bit of power back to the public, certain politicians will whip people into a frenzy, further stoking fear. These politicians are, naturally, bought by the very corporations who benefit from power, and thus the people lose ever more power.

                          Case in point: the decimation of an attempt to bring a single-payer system of funding into the American health care system (which is not the same thing, BTW, as a government-run system).
                          Last edited by SteveRiley; Jul 05, 2012, 10:57 AM.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                            Yet another reason to get a Raspberry Pi (or something similar) and roll your own router/firewall. The Model B has an Ethernet NIC that you'd point north. For the south-facing interface, use a wireless USB if you want an access point or an Ethernet USB if you want a wired router. Corresponding software would be some iptables configuration for routing and HostAPD for access points.

                            uh.... point a NIC north? South facing?
                            "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                            – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                              uh.... point a NIC north? South facing?
                              Heh, sorry. "North" means toward your ISP or the Internet generally. "South" means toward your internal network. Net-head lingo...

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