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    Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.


    Hills and cars just don't mix.

    But more entertaining is this bus demolishing its own route sign. Crunch.

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    Gee, those bring back such warm, fuzzy feelings of living in Dallas. NOT! The first winter we were in Dallas it snowed and iced, and we're calling all around asking for tire chains, and they're like, huh?!, tire chains?! Coming from SoCal--where chains are required for mountain driving when it's snowing, and enforced by roadblocks--and having lived in Albuquerque prior to moving to Dallas, we just didn't know anyone could not know about--or carry--tire chains.

    Year after year I saw cars slipping, sliding, twirling and crashing because the idiot drivers were clueless when it came to driving on ice/snow. I laid down the law that I would NOT be seen in my office at work if there was ice on the ground. It just wasn't worth battling it out with all the idiots on the roads, and since I could work from home it really wasn't a big deal. Now that I'm back home in warm, beautiful, sunny SoCal, the ONLY time I have to see ice/snow is when I look up at the San Gabriel Mountains--from down here in the valley where it's nice and warm.
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      Yes, stay home is the best idea. The few times I've had to drive in snow and ice I noticed a lot of other vehicles passing me. Interrestingly, it seems most of the ones in the ditch, upside down or sideways are the SUVs. I know they are often top heavy but I think there is something in an SUV that sucks the common sense out of some people. :P

      Cautious Ken.
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        Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

        Originally posted by lcorken
        Yes, stay home is the best idea. The few times I've had to drive in snow and ice I noticed a lot of other vehicles passing me. Interrestingly, it seems most of the ones in the ditch, upside down or sideways are the SUVs. I know they are often top heavy but I think there is something in an SUV that sucks the common sense out of some people. :P
        I agree--I've noticed the same thing about SUVs. Um, ironically...guess what I drive? A Toyota RAV4 SUV. But, I'm not a moron driver! When I was living in Dallas, and if I was already out (like at work) when it started to ice/snow, I was cautious, stayed in 2nd gear most of the time, and let the idiots fly past me on the left (although in Texas, unlike most other places in the civilized world, there is no concept of fast lane/slow lane--in normal weather, I'd be flying along on the freeway in the left lane and have to slam on my brakes to avoid crashing into the ass of some moron doing 30). Going over bridges I was particularly cautious. My 4WD, 5-speed manual transmissions certainly added a layer of safety and being in control.
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          I live in Alaska (South Central [Anchorage vicinity, but live in Wasilla]), and it amazes me every Winter to see how people who live here - have lived here for years - drive. You would think that they have never seen snow and ice before! Of those vehicles that end up off the road do to poor driving habits, 4x4 vehicles are a surprising majority. People incorrectly think that they have more traction and control with a 4x4 on snow/ice than does a two-wheel drive, and so, can drive faster than is safe for the conditions.
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            Originally posted by Snowhog
            I live in Alaska (South Central [Anchorage vicinity, but live in Wasilla]), and it amazes me every Winter to see how people who live here - have lived here for years - drive. You would think that they have never seen snow and ice before!
            That's funny. You'd think--after a few years, you know--they'd figure it out.

            Of those vehicles that end up off the road do to poor driving habits, 4x4 vehicles are a surprising majority. People incorrectly think that they have more traction and control with a 4x4 on snow/ice than does a two-wheel drive, and so, can drive faster than is safe for the conditions.
            I do think my 4x4, 5-speed manual transmissions gave me better traction and control--but I did NOT drive faster as a result. I looked at them as an added safety layer, not license to behave like a moron. I'm sure some people do the latter, though, so I'm not arguing about that. It's just that not ALL people with 4x4s do it!
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              Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

              Originally posted by DoYouKubuntu
              It's just that not ALL people with 4x4s do it!
              Of which I agree. Those who already "know how to drive" understand that just because you have a 4x4, you can't drive how ever you want, regardless of the road conditions! Believe me, a 4x4 going 70 MPH on a snow covered highway that has to suddenly apply the brakes - hard - isn't going to stop any faster (anti-braking aside).
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                Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

                Originally posted by Snowhog
                Originally posted by DoYouKubuntu
                It's just that not ALL people with 4x4s do it!
                Of which I agree. Those who already "know how to drive" understand that just because you have a 4x4, you can't drive how ever you want, regardless of the road conditions! Believe me, a 4x4 going 70 MPH on a snow covered highway that has to suddenly apply the brakes - hard - isn't going to stop any faster (anti-braking aside).
                Exactly.

                When I'm driving up in the local mountains [in normal weather] I feel in control in a way that I never did [a million years ago] when I'd go up there driving an automatic, non-4WD. It's totally different. I love the control downshifting and/or using the clutch provides. Just no comparison.
                Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

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                  #9
                  Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

                  What I really loved was the woman in flipflops putting chains on her car in six inch deep snow.

                  woodsmoke

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                    #10
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                    I love this town, just the right percentage of goofballs to keep it interesting

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                      Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

                      Originally posted by lcorken
                      Yes, stay home is the best idea. The few times I've had to drive in snow and ice I noticed a lot of other vehicles passing me. Interrestingly, it seems most of the ones in the ditch, upside down or sideways are the SUVs. I know they are often top heavy but I think there is something in an SUV that sucks the common sense out of some people. :P

                      Cautious Ken.
                      SUVs... They have the nickname of "Chelsea Tractor" over here. The most common purpose for these things seems to be for wealthy (and lazy?) urban people to take the kids to school without a glimpse of hills/snow/mud etc. A supermini would do the job better.

                      On the videos - Either people are soft nowadays (or maybe I was stupid) but when I was 16 I would think nothing of going out on my motorbike in conditions like those in the first video - it was my only form of transport, but the snow added a fun factor nevertheless. Still have one but it's a hobby now - wouldn't go out in conditions like that any more - too many nutters in cars, as the videos clearly illustrate

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                        Stay at home! Not an option in Upstate New York. Chains are a thing of the past. Experience at winter driving, a front wheel or all wheel drive vehicle and appropriate caution, and 6 inches of now is not an issue.
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                          #13
                          Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

                          Originally posted by Snowhog
                          I live in Alaska ...
                          Snowhog - can you see Russia and/or Sarah Palin from your backyard?

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                            #14
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                            Here in Oklahoma City we have part of the I-44 bridge that is elevated, and is also at a slight slope. Great for drainage during the spring storms, but a real pain when the ice storms come through. Cars and trucks go through there, and end up crashing at the bottom of the sloped bridge.

                            It would cost too much to fix, so for now the media camps out there during an ice storm and records all the accidents. Locals stay off it during bad weather.

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                              #15
                              Re: Seattle. Snow. The usual videos of morons and their cars.

                              Originally posted by The Liquidator
                              SUVs... They have the nickname of "Chelsea Tractor" over here. The most common purpose for these things seems to be for wealthy (and lazy?) urban people to take the kids to school without a glimpse of hills/snow/mud etc.
                              Yep, that's why I bought my first one! To take my kids--two Great Danes, Freddie Mercury and his sister, Queen--out with me. I had to say goodbye to my beloved Toyota truck because the kids outgrew the front seat in approximately....two weeks, I think? *sigh* No room for me, my husband, and the kids. So I bought my first (of three, so far) Toyota RAV4 SUVs. Oh, lazy? No. Little Freddie went to work with me every day. Urban? No. Suburban. Snow? Yes indeed!

                              PS, Steve your crappy weather is front page news on MY hometown paper, the LA Times; right now the headline says "Icy winter storm paralyzes Seattle", and yesterday it said something about the unprepared northwest being hit by a nasty winter storm.
                              Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

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