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    #16
    Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

    When I read that with WP7 Nokiasoft was going to "focus" on the wealthy 1st world markets (USA & EU) and with Symbian focus on poorer 2nd & 2rd world markets (India, Mid-East, South America, etc...) I was not aware that Nokia had been all but forgotten in the USA. A former Nokia engineer explains why he thinks that the "Americanization" of Nokia is at fault.
    I have to believe some virtual machete-wielding accountant zoomed in on the obvious cost-benefit ratios of these ‘money-suckers’ and concluded they had to be cut. Surely no marketing executive worth his or her salt would have done so. Even if these operations lose money in their direct fiscal vicinity, they tend to have a wider, overall positive impact on the big bottom line. When done right, they generate goodwill that turns immediate beneficiaries into viral, voluntary marketing machines. The resultant word of mouth is incalculable… and extremely critical to success.

    Read the reviews of the closed New York flagship store. Same for Chicago’s. Shutting them (and others) down was a slap in the face to loyal Nokia customers, especially those in the area of the US headquarters (in White Plains). It’s mystifying… particularly since competitor Apple continues to do the opposite of Nokia and open more.

    But is this more an American or European tendency? Consider that Europe’s markets are more open and competitive. In my overseas travels and work-related activities I’ve witnessed this first-hand. Nokia prospers in open markets, and stumbles where artificial barriers (like FCC-managed wireless spectrum bidding and market gerrymandering) are the norm. Thus my take is that we would be seeing a much different picture from Nokia, even without significant (and in some areas admittedly necessary) corporate change, if the US enjoyed a more competitive mobile landscape.

    My Conclusion

    Granted this is just my amateur analysis and quite likely at odds with the thoughts of far more experienced experts.

    Conventional wisdom has had it that Nokia could use a huge infusion of American thinking to break it free of prior constraints. But this assumption overlooks the fact that US-originated mobile successes like Apple’s iPhone and Google’s Android are anomalies that have so far avoided the sort of traditional traps that have ensnared other American efforts. And don’t forget that Nokia gave us internationally-accepted GSM networks, while the US focused on the limited CDMA standard.

    Adopting an American ‘gotta make this quarter‘ approach to business can produce compelling short-term results, but I find that to be at odds with Europe’s more long-range visions. I sincerely hope Nokia avoids this pitfall and digs deep to rediscover its cultural roots. The ones that made it a global success in the first place. That means reducing the common influences of the US, not cranking them up. Hopefully CEO Elop lets the Finns be Finns instead of warping them into… us.

    And, here is a blog about one volunteer's contributions to MeeGo/Maemo:
    If MeeGo survives Nokia’s diminished attention, still under the auspices of the Linux Foundation, nothing really has to change with regards to my involvement. I’m running MeeGo 1.1 on my Intel-gifted ideapad, and mostly pleased. However, rumor now has it that the Netbook UX has lost Intel’s support. I don’t get that. And I’m also not sure what I do with the marketing materials I’ve been creating, as well as the local meetup groups I’m supporting. We’re looking for a strong signal from the Linux Foundation and especially Intel. Interestingly, I was informed before Nokia’s announcement that Intel is working on a MeeGo brand refresh, one that emphasized community more. That makes a great deal of sense now, and I’m looking forward to the results.

    If MeeGo AND Maemo fizzle, that leaves me looking for a new hobby altogether. Supporting these communities has been a time-consuming, often nerve-wracking ordeal on one hand… but it’s also blessed me with a wealth of friends who would likely drift off to other endeavors and we might eventually lose touch. Not to mention the opportunities to travel to places, like Dublin and Amsterdam, I might not otherwise have ever enjoyed. Will it end, or are we perhaps looking at something else entirely– a reboot? A remix? A stronger, clearer, sharper commitment to open source solutions?
    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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      #17
      Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

      I was wrong. Stephen Elop was not the 7th largest MS stockholder ... he was the 8th.
      http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/...onal-ownership

      Code:
      Elop (Stephen A) 	130,026 shares 	$3.18 Million
      Nowhere near Gate's $16B worth or Ballmer's $8B worth of stock, but he is a top 10 player. I would have imagined that the top 10 MS stockholders would be in the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars range. Besides Gates & Ballmer only THREE other individual stockholders are in that range. MS has really slipped.
      "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
      – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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        #18
        Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

        Nokia, Microsoft and whose army?
        http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post...7-0780cafb7030
        "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
        – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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          #19
          Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

          Originally posted by GreyGeek
          I find the analysis there very poor, and even biased. They treat this as an honest mistake because it is "too late". Things are a lot worse than that. But I won't repeat the arguments above.

          I do think that Qt is not just "going to be fine". Sure it helps that it can be forked, and probably it should, right away. But everybody seems to underestimate how difficult it is to produce/maintain a library of the quality and complexity of Qt, and support several platforms at the same time.

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            #20
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            I've been buying Nokia Music "Xpress" phone for about four years now. I have no real need for the current crop of smart phones. I just want a MP3 player that happens to make calls and text. I stuck with the Nokia like because I didn't want to learn a whole new menu structure with each phone upgrade.

            Good grief I sound like my dad.

            Looks like this will be my last Nokia phone then. I'm trying to get AWAY from Microsoft!

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              #21
              Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

              Originally posted by ScottyK
              Looks like this will be my last Nokia phone then. I'm trying to get AWAY from Microsoft!
              Me too. I got a motorola droid and LOVE it. I can do email on the road, I can step on my car, tap the "voice search" icon ("app") and say where I want to go, get an option with two or three results to choose from, pick the one I want, and have the GPS take me there. I can listen to internet radio on the go, and see what's a good restaurant in the place I am visiting. What's not to love!

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                #22
                Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                Way to go, INTEL:
                http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-were...nking-on-meego

                Meego will live on. Qt will survive, even if not under Nokia. Let's support the players in the open world: Google, Intel, AMD/ATI. We can, and we should, vote with our wallets.

                On the bright side, it will be fun to see some people on the bus getting the BSOD, viruses, malware, crapware, and backdoor exploits. Oh yeah

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                  #23
                  Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                  Oh, there is a fork already
                  http://www.msqt.org/

                  This one will have, obviously, a dependency on the MS compiler, so it will be TRULY cross platform: windows XP, vista and XP

                  (before anybody gets excited, please see the disclaimer at the bottom of their webpage)

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                    #24
                    Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                    WOW.!!!! Did that just get published or has that been around for a while. A lot of trouble for a "satire", though funny and ironic it is.



                    EDIT: I find this hilarious!! -->
                    The installation procedure is different on each MSQt™ platform.

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                      #25
                      Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                      Yeah, I am not sure how new it is. I think a lot of the stuff seems to be a script prepending MS to the standard API (at a quick glance).

                      It's probably worth the effort, and that this is how MS has tried to destroy everything they touched. This includes their "MS extensions" to HTML:
                      http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff520931(v=vs.85).aspx

                      Have I said this before? How I hate these people

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                        #26
                        Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                        On that last link you can read this:

                        • No Trade Secrets. Microsoft does not claim any trade secret rights in this documentation.
                        Now THAT is just about as stupid a thing as you could put on a web site. I happen to know what a trade secret is, from the legal perspective. I can 100% guarantee that nothing you will ever read on a web page will ever, ever, be remotely qualified as a trade secret in any court in the U.S., unless you personally stole it out of a protected area and published it yourself (in which case you'll need a deck of cards and nothing else -- the food and clothes will be provided where you're going).

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                          #27
                          Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                          More encouraging news about Meego:
                          http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/i...ablet-for-mwc/

                          And more encouraging news about Linux desktop/mobile deployments (WebOS):
                          http://ostatic.com/blog/hp-has-far-r...ux-based-webos

                          Sorry Mr Ballmer

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                            #28
                            Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                            http://www.palm.com/us/products/pads...pad/index.html
                            &
                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebOS

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                            16GB RAM
                            Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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                              #29
                              Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                              Wow, this looks nice!

                              http://nokiaplanb.com/

                              It would be nice to promote it.

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                                #30
                                Re: Nokia follows in Novell's footprints ...

                                If for real I'd say if I was one of the investors I'd do the same especially after seeing my stock go down as it did.

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