Rolling release!! What do you think?

[Detonate]

This is interesting.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=ODgyMw

[dibl]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

That would be a very wise move, IMHO. I mainly use aptosid these days, for that very reason. OS version upgrades are just a big PIA, in too many cases (as you can notice on these forums).

[GreyGeek]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I agree, Dibl.

The ONLY problem with rolling releases is "when do you jump on the train?". At some time a release ISO will have to be produced so that folks can install it. The longer the time lapse between the last ISO release the more files will have to be downloaded to upgrade to the front of the wave. I've seen 700+ MB of files installed after installing a point release. But, once you are on board the ride is nice!

[arochester]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

The suggestion that it was to become a Rolling Release was later denied. See "Ubuntu is ‘not changing to a rolling release’" - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/u...lling-release/

...but I agree that it should be...

[dibl]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I agree, Dibl.

The ONLY problem with rolling releases is "when do you jump on the train?". At some time a release ISO will have to be produced so that folks can install it. The longer the time lapse between the last ISO release the more files will have to be downloaded to upgrade to the front of the wave. I've seen 700+ MB of files installed after installing a point release. But, once you are on board the ride is nice!

That is very true, GG. You can either wait until the next ISO release, or you can do like me -- start the dist-upgrade using the -d option (download only) and then go find something else to do for an hour or two.

The reason for the -d option is because there will likely be debconf scripts that will require user confirmation, during the configuration process, and that will hang up the upgrade anyway. So, when you come back, the downloads will all be done and you can then run dist-upgrade and step through the debconf routines, and be done.

[kubicle]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I doubt Canonical will move to a rolling release, support contracts for business desktops/servers is basically the only source of income for Canonical...and rolling-release is a major no-no for large deployments (it's a nightmare for sysadmins).

[oblivion]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I doubt Canonical will move to a rolling release, support contracts for business desktops/servers is basically the only source of income for Canonical...and rolling-release is a major no-no for large deployments (it's a nightmare for sysadmins).

Well, it seems that they are not moving to a rolling release model.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/u...lling-release/

http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/20...g-release.html

[GreyGeek]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

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That is very true, GG. You can either wait until the next ISO release, or you can do like me -- start the dist-upgrade using the -d option (download only) and then go find something else to do for an hour or two.

IF the servers are reasonably fast my bandwidth takes only 6-10 minutes to bring down 700MB, otherwise it depends on how the server is throttled. Most of the time I use ariac2, which opens 4 pipes, if the server allows an IP to create 4 connections.

The reason for the -d option is because there will likely be debconf scripts that will require user confirmation, during the configuration process, and that will hang up the upgrade anyway. So, when you come back, the downloads will all be done and you can then run dist-upgrade and step through the debconf routines, and be done.

Nice info about "-d". I didn't know that. 8)

[Detonate]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

Another view on the subject.

http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/conte...ibution-ubuntu

[woodsmoke]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I'm of two minds on the idea in general.

a) I like the ANticYPAAshun of looking forward to that nice shiney new, unsullied release!!

b) but I also like just clicking update!

woodsmoke

[GreyGeek]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

Awww, come on, woodsmoke, make up your mind!

[dibl]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I can certainly see and appreciate the challenge from an IT sysadmin viewpoint, regarding how to handle deployment of a rolling release distro. Probably a version-restricted deployment is a better option, for large organizations. If you had a manageable group who you could trust to follow instructions, then a rolling release might work.

[Ole Juul]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

Awww, come on, woodsmoke, make up your mind!

I'm with woodsmoke - they're both better than the other.

[The Liquidator]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

You probably need to be in the UK to get this...

I'm of two minds on the idea in general.

a) I like the ANticYPAAshun of looking forward to that nice shiney new, unsullied release!!

b) but I also like just clicking update!

But which ones better?

There's only 1 way to find out .......Fight!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6gyUb0E7o

[67GTA]

Re: Rolling release!! What do you think?

I used PCLinuxOS for about a year, and got really bored. The rolling updates are nice, but there isn't any excitement. Then I enabled the testing repos, and after about a week, got bored again. I like being able to break things between releases.