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    This DIDN'T happen in China or North Korea ...

    so if you believe that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are still in force in America then think again:
    http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/...y-between.html

    Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion and Petition
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Right of search and seizure regulated
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Provisons concerning prosecution
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation. (Which is why the Gov is taking the "civil" lawsuit approach .. it dodges the 5th Amendment but has the same effect.).

    Rule of construction of Constitution
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. (The Gov DOESN'T give the people rights, the people give the Gov limited rights, and only those specifically allowed by their elected representatives. ALL OTHER rights are retained by the people.)
    THE PATRIOT ACT was the nose of the camel under the tent of the Constitution. It has led to the wholesale sacking of the Bill of Rights by the TSA and the DSA. Congress should repeal the "PATRIOT" ACT and pass amendments to the Constitution which forbid ANY Federal, state or local agency from using "civil" (as opposed to criminal) court action to circumvent the provisions of the Bill of Rights.

    The Constitution and Bill of Rights were written in times that were equally turbulent and dangerous as these times, so allowing them to be circumvented for the sake of security is not a sign that "we the people" are no longer brave and because of that fear we are no longer free. Just as was spoken 250 years ago,
    * They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. This was written by Franklin, with quotation marks but almost certainly his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as:
    Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
    This was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759); the book was published by Franklin; its author was Richard Jackson, but Franklin did claim responsibility for some small excerpts that were used in it. An earlier variant by Franklin in Poor Richard's Almanack (1738): "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power." Many paraphrased derivatives of this have often become attributed to Franklin:
    They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
    He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
    He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.
    People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
    If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
    He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.
    Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither.
    Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.

    Ben was right on the money. Bush and Obama were not.
    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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    Microsith European cloud info and the Patriot Act

    Need I remind anyone about just who is in the Oval Office right now?

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/23504..._access_to_eu_

    EU Upset by Microsoft Warning About US Access to EU Cloud

    Members of the European Parliament have demanded to know what lawmakers intend to do about the conflict between the European Union's Data Protection Directive and the U.S. Patriot Act.

    The issue has been raised following Microsoft's admission last week that it may have to hand over European customers' data on a new cloud service to U.S. authorities.

    The company may also be compelled by the Patriot Act to keep details of any such data transfer secret.

    This is directly contrary to the European directive, which states that organizations must inform users when they disclose personal information.

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