In one of the recent Kubuntu developer mailing lists, someone asked about creating a wiki for Kubuntu (much like the Ubuntu Wiki). There was some discussion about whether it should be done, and what material should be placed in it. I posted my thoughts on the subject, and was asked to post it in the Kubuntu forums (in hopes of getting people to help out).
I have also posted this in the Ubuntu forums as this forum was offline for a short period of time (at least short for me).
Here are the messages along with the links to the Kubuntu-developers mailing list, and links to help out on the wiki.
Thanks, and have a great day
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:28:10 -0500
From: Patrick Dickey <email-removed>
Subject: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - wiki should be for anything,,
including support - Too many intermediate links, bad website design, ,
Fix would be great. ; jor
To: kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
After reading some of the original threads on this subject, I thought
I'd weigh in (from a newbie's point of view). I understand what all
sides are saying, and to an extent both sides are right in the issue.
Personally, I'd like to see the second wiki formed (even if it's an
offshoot of the current wiki). What I think it should contain is an
expanded FAQ about Kubuntu. Basically, if it's in a sticky in the
Ubuntu forums or Kubuntu forums, and is about how to do something, or
what hardware/software/etc works with Kubuntu (and how to enable that),
then it should be in the wiki.
As for managing and creating the wiki, you could ask the moderators in
the forums to help out with that (since they will know best what
stickies are relevant). If it's an Ubuntu (general) item, it should
only go into the wiki if it's not covered in help.ubuntu.com or the
Ubuntu Wiki. If it's a Kubuntu-specific item, then it should be edited
to be useful to newbies, and put in the wiki.
On the Kubuntu site, you could put a link to help.ubuntu.com (or the
Ubuntu wiki) for "Ubuntu-general support questions" and a link to the
Kubuntu support wiki for "Kubuntu-specific support questions" along with
a link to the current wiki for "Kubuntu-development questions".
To be honest, when I have a question or problem, the first place I go is
Google. Second is the Ubuntu-wiki, and third is the Ubuntu
forums/Kubuntu forums/Linux Questions forums/Linux How To Forums. From
there, I'll hop around the Internet until I find the answer (or give up
trying). It would be nice to have one place to go for my questions.
And for the question about whether I'm willing to help, I would be
willing to help in any way that I can. If you point me to a sticky that
you want to add, I could help write it up and maybe get screenshots for
the page. Like another commenter here, I would need some hand-holding
at first. I've never submitted or edited a wiki before.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Have a great day
Patrick.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:47:49 -0700
From: "giovanni_re" <email-removed>
Subject: Re: kubuntu.org -> - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu let's
begin improving - ... ; jor KU-dev
To: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion" <kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
Patrick -
A+, 100% Excellent ideas & thoughts.
It is great that you wrote this.
Let us begin to make some improvements.
When you are ready, go here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
log in,
& let the improving begin.
Also, please pass this message along to the KUbuntu forums. As you
mentioned, those people probably know of some excellent content to add.
==
Note that currently, one must type the capitalized "Kubuntu", not
"kubuntu" in the wiki url.
Maybe a redirect from the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu page could be put in place.
==
The only tragedy so far is that the ubuntu wiki lacks
1) unregistered/anonymous editing
- The benefit is lower barrier to entry -> more contributions
- but this requires:
2) the wikipedia registered user moderation/control system
- to minimize anonymous abuse.
In a good world, someday the managers of the wiki.ubuntu.com will get
that technology from the wikipedia people/system.
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I have also posted this in the Ubuntu forums as this forum was offline for a short period of time (at least short for me).
Here are the messages along with the links to the Kubuntu-developers mailing list, and links to help out on the wiki.
Thanks, and have a great day
================================
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:28:10 -0500
From: Patrick Dickey <email-removed>
Subject: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - wiki should be for anything,,
including support - Too many intermediate links, bad website design, ,
Fix would be great. ; jor
To: kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
After reading some of the original threads on this subject, I thought
I'd weigh in (from a newbie's point of view). I understand what all
sides are saying, and to an extent both sides are right in the issue.
Personally, I'd like to see the second wiki formed (even if it's an
offshoot of the current wiki). What I think it should contain is an
expanded FAQ about Kubuntu. Basically, if it's in a sticky in the
Ubuntu forums or Kubuntu forums, and is about how to do something, or
what hardware/software/etc works with Kubuntu (and how to enable that),
then it should be in the wiki.
As for managing and creating the wiki, you could ask the moderators in
the forums to help out with that (since they will know best what
stickies are relevant). If it's an Ubuntu (general) item, it should
only go into the wiki if it's not covered in help.ubuntu.com or the
Ubuntu Wiki. If it's a Kubuntu-specific item, then it should be edited
to be useful to newbies, and put in the wiki.
On the Kubuntu site, you could put a link to help.ubuntu.com (or the
Ubuntu wiki) for "Ubuntu-general support questions" and a link to the
Kubuntu support wiki for "Kubuntu-specific support questions" along with
a link to the current wiki for "Kubuntu-development questions".
To be honest, when I have a question or problem, the first place I go is
Google. Second is the Ubuntu-wiki, and third is the Ubuntu
forums/Kubuntu forums/Linux Questions forums/Linux How To Forums. From
there, I'll hop around the Internet until I find the answer (or give up
trying). It would be nice to have one place to go for my questions.
And for the question about whether I'm willing to help, I would be
willing to help in any way that I can. If you point me to a sticky that
you want to add, I could help write it up and maybe get screenshots for
the page. Like another commenter here, I would need some hand-holding
at first. I've never submitted or edited a wiki before.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Have a great day
Patrick.
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:47:49 -0700
From: "giovanni_re" <email-removed>
Subject: Re: kubuntu.org -> - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu let's
begin improving - ... ; jor KU-dev
To: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion" <kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
Patrick -
A+, 100% Excellent ideas & thoughts.
It is great that you wrote this.
Let us begin to make some improvements.
When you are ready, go here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
log in,
& let the improving begin.
Also, please pass this message along to the KUbuntu forums. As you
mentioned, those people probably know of some excellent content to add.
==
Note that currently, one must type the capitalized "Kubuntu", not
"kubuntu" in the wiki url.
Maybe a redirect from the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntu to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu page could be put in place.
==
The only tragedy so far is that the ubuntu wiki lacks
1) unregistered/anonymous editing
- The benefit is lower barrier to entry -> more contributions
- but this requires:
2) the wikipedia registered user moderation/control system
- to minimize anonymous abuse.
In a good world, someday the managers of the wiki.ubuntu.com will get
that technology from the wikipedia people/system.
------------------------------
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