For Sale: Congress. Inquire within...

[GreyGeek]

http://biggovernment.com/capitolconf...e-on-lobbyist/

The article includes a recording of the phone conversation. Note which word is preceded with a chuckle: "obligations".

Is there any question as to why the majority of Americans are disgusted with ALL politicians?

She violates 18 U.S.C. § 600 and 18 U.S.C. § 601, plus Ethics Rules on pages 147 and 150 of the House Ethics Manual (2008 Edition

Should she have known better?

As Holmes Norton repeatedly notes on the call, she is a senior member of Congress. She knows or should know all of this. First elected to Congress in 1990, she took her law degree from Yale University and clerked for U.S. District Court Judge Leon Higginbotham before working as an assistant legal director at the ACLU, law professor at NYU, Chairman of the NYC Human Rights Commission, and Chairman of the EEOC. She is a tenured law professor at Georgetown University and serves on the boards of three Fortune 500 companies.

YES!

Watch closely who will be making excuses for her illegal actions.

[dibl]

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I'm just SHOCKED!

It's the old story -- we still have the best government money can buy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal

http://allthewaywithlbj.com/lbj-and-...baker-scandal/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle723986.ece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscam

[GreyGeek]

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Ya, discouraging, isn't it.

[Snowhog]

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Proposed Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (that should be initiated and ratified by the States):

Term Limits, Salary, Retirement, and Benefits of United States Legislators (House and Senate)

1. Term limits shall be imposed on the United States House of Representatives and United States Senate as follows:
a. Members elected to the United States House of Representatives (the 'House') shall serve a single term of four years (the 'Term'). No elected member of the House shall be eligible for election to the House until the fifth year following the end of their elected term.

b. Members elected to the United States Senate (the 'Senate') shall serve a single term of six years (the 'Term), with one-third of the Senate being elected every two years. No elected member of the Senate shall be eligible for election to the Senate until the seventh year following the end of their elected term.

2. Compensation (the 'Salary') for elected service to the House and Senate shall be based on current "Real median household income" (the 'Income'), compiled and published by the United States Census Bureau as follows:
a. The Salary of members elected to the House shall be one times the Income.
b. The Salary of members elected to the Senate shall be two times the Income.

The Income shall be adjusted annually during the Term to reflect the current Income.
Elected members to the House and to the Senate shall be paid no additional Salary.

3. Elected members of the House and of the Senate are, at the completion of their term, prohibited from receiving a retirement benefit not also available to, and enjoyed by, the citizens of the United States of America. Elected members of the House and of The Senate may participate in any retirement plan or program available to the citizens of the United States of America.

4. Elected members of the House and of the Senate are, at the completion of their term, prohibited from receiving non-retirement benefits not also available to, and enjoyed by, the citizens of the United States of America.

[GreyGeek]

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I'd add:

5 Corporations, both public and private, either profit or non-profit, are prohibited from donating to candidates or elected officials in any way, directly or indirectly. Lobbying candidates for or members of the House or Senate in any form or manner is hereby prohibited, with minimum mandatory prison terms for the management and board members of corporations convicted of attempts to, or do, influence Congressional business, with or without the exchange of money or other assets. Convicted corporations will have their charter canceled and their corporate assets seized and placed in the General US Treasury. Personal assets of board and management of convicted corporations will also have their assets seized. (The cabal between corporations and federal agencies and politicians is the most dangerous threat our country faces today. period.)

6. To avoid conflict of interests, citizens who receive medicaid, ADC, or other payments from taxpayer supported welfare programs (this does not include Social Security) are prohibited from voting for candidates for the House or Senate during their participation in such programs and for a period of up to one year following their last payments from such programs. (People voting to fund their own welfare retirement program because they decided that they can have fun and tax payers have to support any children from that fun, or that anchor babies entitles their parents to a life of public support is just plain unfair to people who are responsible and work to support themselves, pay their own way and pay taxes to support the infrastructure of this country.)

[kyonides]

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b. Members elected to the United States Senate (the 'Senate') shall serve a single term of six years

Isn't it a bit like a political suicide? 6 years? As if they did something useful during their 2 or 4 year-period...

[GreyGeek]

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The terms of the members of the us Senate are already 6 years. Snowhog's suggestion is a term limit of one 6 year term followed by an interim passage of 7 years before they can run again. Since the "2nd 6 years" would already be taken by one eligible to run, it effectively puts 12 years between two "terms" for any US Senator.

Excellent Idea.

[kyonides]

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What I meant was to reduce it to 4 years and let them wait for about 7 to 12 years to be elegible for another 4 year-period hehehe

[GreyGeek]

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If at all..

[phonnic_p]

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I'm so glad to see citizens of the USA know whats broken in their political "SYSTEM" and have excellent ideas on how to fix it....
... I wish you well in lobbying other USA citizens to facilitate change.

[GreyGeek]

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It's been broken for decades.

It just since the new depression that enough folks have been hurt that they are now spitting mad.

[Snowhog]

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In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[GreyGeek]

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Which prompted Igor Panarin to make this prediction: http://bigthink.com/ideas/21432:

Igor Panarin has been predicting the “moral and economic collapse” of the US for about a decade now; he set the Endtime for the American Empire at the year 2010,...

[img width=400 height=312]http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/panarin-us-break.jpg[/img]
The way a lot of people are talking right now some think he may not be far off.

I believe he is in fantasy land, but I wouldn't doubt that Putin and his FBG are doing everything they can to incite the hotheads.

I would extend the blue part to the west coast to include California, and east between Kansas and Nebraska and on down toward the South --- all the lands the Mexico think we stole from it, and the Aztlan group thinks they can steal back.

[kyonides]

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If talking about predictions, I'll say California will end up being an island with some other neighbor states thanks to San Andreas fault even before it declares itself a separate (independent) political organization.

I think I read something about USA being another country from the (English / UK) Common Wealth in the future...