Incredibly dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic - so far

[Snowhog]

Yes, I have to say it: I'm dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic. I recently upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty so I could then upgrade to Karmic. Jaunty was okay. Everything worked. And important to me, I had working compositing, allowing me to use the Advanced Desktop effects. But after upgrading to Karmic, I lost that. A definite step backwards. Yes, I have an intel Integrated Graphics Controller, and yes, I've heard/seen posts here and there, that Karmic has 'issues' with the intel Integrated Graphics Controller(s). But, previous versions of Kubuntu (and Ubuntu - one of my three installed OSs) worked just fine with it. Because compositing isn't working, moving around in the Desktop and applications (except for consoles - 2D, not 3D) is very sluggish. I can't operate that way.

Had a large update tonight, but nothing upgraded resulted in compositing being re-enabled. I'll keep Karmic and upgrade through the final release and hope that compositing gets resolved. If it doesn't, I'll seriously have to consider removing it completely from my system.

[tnorris]

Re: Incredibly dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic - so far

That's weird I had the exact opposite experience. I run Kubuntu on a T61 with an Intel GM965. Prior to Karmic I couldn't get compositing to run with out everything slowing to a crawl. On Karmic now, everything runs great.

[Fintan]

Re: Incredibly dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic - so far

That's weird I had the exact opposite experience. I run Kubuntu on a T61 with an Intel GM965. Prior to Karmic I couldn't get compositing to run with out everything slowing to a crawl. On Karmic now, everything runs great.

I concur.

Hmmm.....
Did you upgrade to KK from your intrepid->Jaunty?

I did a clean alpha 5 install and kept on upgrading from there on my travelmate and desktop effects work just fine.
Almost no slowdown compared to 2D.

[dibl]

Re: Incredibly dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic - so far

Snowhog there have been large changes going on in several *buntu domains, that may have conspired to cause an unhappy "planetary alignment" for some Intel GPUs:

- HAL instead of /etc/X11/xorg.conf for handling video
- new X.org video display system (I think that came in Jaunty)
- Intel drivers in various stages of not keeping up

Did you look into this thread over at Ubuntu Forum?:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582


Here, I just installed the new 190.42 RC Nvidia driver (manual install, not "Hardware Drivers") on Kubuntu, and I must say I have only found one very minor bug, which may be due to running Compiz instead of kwin. When I click the network icon on my panel, and it pops open, the lowest menu item which I think is "configure settings" is actually completely hidden behind the panel. Happily I don't need it, I only discovered it while helping someone else. Also, the greeting tune is a little bit "foreshortened" I guess you'd say - kind jumps in at the third stanza or something. But I was using it to scan a document this morning, and sound and video and everything is looking just great here.

[Snowhog]

Re: Incredibly dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic - so far

I found a post last night (Ubuntuforums?) that talked about the issue with the intel driver and the *new* drm2* libraries being used in Karmic (Jaunty and earlier used drm*). drm2* isn't compatible with the intel drivers. I guess I can hope that this will be rectified.

Fintan@
I did an upgrade from Jaunty. I tested the idea that upgrading from an existing Jaunty might somehow be at fault, so I downloaded the RC .iso for Karmic and tried it in LiveCD mode. No go. Still no compositing.

[Snowhog]

Re: Incredibly dissapointed with Kubuntu Karmic - so far

xserver-common xserver-xorg-core updated tonight, but still no joy in compositing-ville with my Intel GPU. Still two day until final. One can still hope.