What happens during an upgrade if you have de-snapped?

[bendy]

Can anyone confirm what happens if you are running 24.04 with the snap versions of firefox and thunderbird replaced with debs from the mozillateam ppa, and then do an in-place upgrade to 24.10?

Will the debs get replaced with snaps again, and so the de-snapping process will need to be repeated?

Thanks!

[jlittle]

I don't know about the debs from the Mozilla team ppa; I run them (ff & tb) installed from the downloaded tar balls. I release upgraded from 24.04 to 24.10 without incident, without having to reinstall snaps.

(I found the Mozilla team ppa versions to be far too slow at updating; the standalone versions update in seconds.)

[tenplus1]

If you followed the guide to install Firefox and Mozilla from the PPA then it would have blacklisted the snap release from further updates, so moving to 24.10 should only update the packages needed and skip the ff snap entirely.

[oshunluvr]

Nothing happened here.

[Melcar]

I had two instances of an upgrade removing Firefox and Thunderbird .deb packages and replacing them with snaps despite having a blacklist file. Both instances when jumping to LTS releases, and the second time it kind of nuked my install (the install script freaked out trying to reinstall Firefox snap and thrashed the OS). When I upgraded to 24.10 it kept my .deb packages. Either way, I'm not sticking around trying to guess if an upgrade will force snaps again and moved to Fedora now.

[jlittle]

.... moved to Fedora now.

Two points:

1. Fedora is faster than Kubuntu, with Ubuntu's 6 month release cadence, and can have its problems. For example, if, like me, one needs to stick to X11, Fedora is no good.
2. Please consider hanging about with us here at KFN. We're actually distro agnostic.

[Melcar]

Two points:

1. Fedora is faster than Kubuntu, with Ubuntu's 6 month release cadence, and can have its problems. For example, if, like me, one needs to stick to X11, Fedora is no good.
2. Please consider hanging about with us here at KFN. We're actually distro agnostic.

I usually don't care to differentiate between regular and LTS, so to me both are fixed release distros with a six month cycle. Fedora does technically move faster as they tend to push updates withing a release for certain packages that are normally static in a particular U(K)ubuntu release (F41 just updated to mesa 24.3.2 for example). Serves my purposes better as I no longer have to rely on PPAs. Moving away from Kubuntu was primarily a personal choice as 1) I got tired of de-snapifying every time a LTS was out and 2) I wanted a faster moving distro when it came to mesa without having to resort to PPAs or using rolling release distros.
Kubuntu is not bad and I enjoyed the whole decade I used it as my main OS, but my preferences and needs changed and Fedora happens to be a better fit for me now.
Still pop in the forums every now and then, if anything for KDE related support.