K3b: missing dependencies

[lednyk]

I own a Blu-Ray disc burner and I use Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I have installed K3b without any error message, but when I start the program I get an error message complaining that the ‘cdrtools’ package is missing. When I try to search with Synaptic for ‘cdrtools’ the package turns out to be non-existent: in fact the maintainer Jörg Schilling died on 10 October 2021 and Debian forked the package under the new name ‘cdrkit’ (wikipedia). There is in fact ‘burner-cdrkit’, which supposedly contains ‘cdrkit’. But that is not enough. To get K3b working, I had to install - in addition to ‘burner-cdrkit’ - also ‘cdrskin’ and ‘libburn4t64’ with:

sudo apt install k3b cdrskin burner-cdrkit libburn4t64

After that everything works normally.

The question I have is: why doesn't ‘sudo apt install k3b’ automatically install all the missing dependencies?

[Schwarzer Kater]

Welcome.

Hm. At least the installation of K3b here in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS for my internal DVD burner worked without any errors and I can start K3b without an error.
I have not used the program to burn anything yet, though.

I also don't see the dependencies you mentioned in apt info k3b, only cdrdao and wodim|cdrskin - cdrdao and wodim have been automatically installed here.
But this doesn't have to mean anything…

Did you install Kubuntu 24.04 LTS fresh or was it a release-upgrade from 23.10?

[RedGreen925]

The question I have is: why doesn't ‘sudo apt install k3b’ automatically install all the missing dependencies?

Seems strange it will install here with them without any problem and no mention of cdrtools.

root@9600k:~# apt install -s k3b
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
cdparanoia dvd+rw-tools growisofs k3b-data k3b-i18n libiso9660-11t64
libvcdinfo0 vcdimager wodim
Suggested packages:
cdrskin k3b-extrathemes kde-config-cddb movixmaker-2 normalize-audio sox
cdrkit-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cdparanoia dvd+rw-tools growisofs k3b k3b-data k3b-i18n libiso9660-11t64
libvcdinfo0 vcdimager wodim
0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Inst cdparanoia (3.10.2+debian-14build3 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst growisofs (7.1-14build2 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst dvd+rw-tools (7.1-14build2 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst k3b-data (23.08.5-0ubuntu5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [all])
Inst wodim (9:1.1.11-3.5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst k3b (23.08.5-0ubuntu5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst k3b-i18n (23.08.5-0ubuntu5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [all])
Inst libiso9660-11t64 (2.1.0-4.1ubuntu1 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst libvcdinfo0 (2.0.1+dfsg-6build3 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Inst vcdimager (2.0.1+dfsg-6build3 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf cdparanoia (3.10.2+debian-14build3 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf growisofs (7.1-14build2 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf dvd+rw-tools (7.1-14build2 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf k3b-data (23.08.5-0ubuntu5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [all])
Conf wodim (9:1.1.11-3.5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf k3b (23.08.5-0ubuntu5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf k3b-i18n (23.08.5-0ubuntu5 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [all])
Conf libiso9660-11t64 (2.1.0-4.1ubuntu1 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf libvcdinfo0 (2.0.1+dfsg-6build3 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])
Conf vcdimager (2.0.1+dfsg-6build3 Ubuntu:24.04/noble [amd64])

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[lednyk]

"Did you install Kubuntu 24.04 LTS fresh or was it a release-upgrade from 23.10?"
I installed Kubuntu 24.04 LTS from scratch, overwriting the entire SSD hard disk.

"Seems strange it will install here with them without any problem and no mention of cdrtools."
The message ‘cdrtools missing’ only appears after starting K3b.

[Schwarzer Kater]

Did you use the "Minimal Installation" option by any chance?

[…]
The message ‘cdrtools missing’ only appears after starting K3b.

As I wrote: here there is no message or error and K3b seems to work just fine without having to install anything else (both "Normal" and "Full Installation" options).
And I just tested this in a VM again and no problems or errors when installing K3b or any reported missing dependencies.

[lednyk]

Did you use the "Minimal Installation" option by any chance?

I chose 'Full Installation' on real hardware. K3b installs without giving error messages. The message ‘cdrtools missing’ appears after the first starting of K3b, and K3b does not burn media. The same thing happened with the previous Kubuntu 22.04 LTS release.

[oshunluvr]

The issue is that cdrtools is not actually a "dependency" but is actually an "add-on" in this case.

The developer has decided that the ability to burn or whatever that package allows is not mandatory to use K3b. The question as to why could only be answered by the developer.

[jglen490]

The version of K3b that both Discover and Synaptic have for 24.04 LTS do not indicate any of those dependencies for the current version. Can you verify which version of K3b is installed on your system?

As Schwarzer Kater indicated for apt info k3b, the following shows up:

apt info k3b
Package: k3b
Version: 23.08.5-0ubuntu5
Priority: optional
Section: universe/otherosfs
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 2,192 kB
Depends: cdparanoia, cdrdao, genisoimage, k3b-data (= 23.08.5-0ubuntu5), libk3b8 (= 23.08.5-0ubuntu5), udisks2
, wodim | cdrskin, kio, libc6 (>= 2.34), libkf5archive5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5authcore5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5book
marks5 (>= 5.69.0), libkf5cddb5 (>= 4:23.08.5~), libkf5completion5 (>= 4.97.0), libkf5configcore5 (>= 5.88.0~)
, libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 4.96.0), libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 5.95.0), libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5iconthemes5
(>= 5.88.0~), libkf5jobwidgets5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5kcmutils5 (>= 5.89.0), libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.92.0), libkf5
kiofilewidgets5 (>= 5.103.0), libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.108.0), libkf5newstuffcore5
(>= 5.88.0~), libkf5newstuffwidgets5 (>= 5.115.0), libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5notifyconfig5 (>=
5.88.0~), libkf5solid5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 5.100.0), libkf5xmlgui5 (>= 5.88.0~), libqt5core
5t64 (>= 5.15.1), libqt5dbus5t64 (>= 5.14.0~), libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.0~) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.0~), libq
t5widgets5t64 (>= 5.15.1), libqt5xml5t64 (>= 5.14.0~), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6)
Recommends: dvd+rw-tools, growisofs, k3b-i18n, libk3b-extracodecs, vcdimager
Suggests: k3b-extrathemes, kde-config-cddb, movixmaker-2, normalize-audio, sox
Homepage: https://userbase.kde.org/K3b
Task: ubuntustudio-video
Download-Size: 619 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/universe amd64 Packages
Description: Sophisticated CD/DVD burning application
K3b is a full-featured CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning and ripping application.
It supports a variety of project types as well as copying of optical
media, burning of different types of images, and ripping Audio CDs,
Video CDs, and Video DVDs.
Its convenient user interface is targeted at all audiences, trying to
be as simple as possible for novice users, while also providing all
features an advanced user might need.

The need for cdrskin shows is an "or" next to wodim, and wodim is actually installed.

[lednyk]

The version of K3b that both Discover and Synaptic have for 24.04 LTS do not indicate any of those dependencies for the current version. Can you verify which version of K3b is installed on your system?

K3b version 23.08.5

My "apt info k3b" says:

Package: k3b
Version: 23.08.5-0ubuntu5
Priority: optional
Section: universe/otherosfs
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 2.192 kB
Depends: cdparanoia, cdrdao, genisoimage, k3b-data (= 23.08.5-0ubuntu5), libk3b8 (= 23.08.5-0ubuntu5), udisks2, wodim | cdrskin, kio, libc6 (>= 2.34), libkf5archive5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5authcore5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5bookmarks5 (>= 5.69.0), libkf5cddb5 (>= 4:23.08.5~), libkf5completion5 (>= 4.97.0), libkf5configcore5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 4.96.0), libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 5.95.0), libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5iconthemes5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5jobwidgets5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5kcmutils5 (>= 5.89.0), libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.92.0), libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (>= 5.103.0), libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.108.0), libkf5newstuffcore5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5newstuffwidgets5 (>= 5.115.0), libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5notifyconfig5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5solid5 (>= 5.88.0~), libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 5.100.0), libkf5xmlgui5 (>= 5.88.0~), libqt5core5t64 (>= 5.15.1), libqt5dbus5t64 (>= 5.14.0~), libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.0~) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.0~), libqt5widgets5t64 (>= 5.15.1), libqt5xml5t64 (>= 5.14.0~), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6)
Recommends: dvd+rw-tools, growisofs, k3b-i18n, libk3b-extracodecs, vcdimager
Suggests: k3b-extrathemes, kde-config-cddb, movixmaker-2, normalize-audio, sox
Homepage: https://userbase.kde.org/K3b
Task: ubuntustudio-video
Download-Size: 619 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/universe amd64 Packages

All "suggests" and "recommends" are installed, except "movixmaker-2": apt says that package "movixmaker-2" has no candidates to install.

[Snowhog]

Just to chime in on this. On my Desktop PC, running 24.04 (upgraded from 23.10), I just installed k3b. Install log:

The following additional packages will be installed:
cdparanoia cdrdao dvd+rw-tools growisofs k3b-data k3b-i18n libflac++10 libiso9660-11t64 libk3b-data libk3b-extracodecs libk3b8
libperl4-corelibs-perl libvcdinfo0 vcdimager wodim
Suggested packages:
cdrskin k3b-extrathemes kde-config-cddb movixmaker-2 normalize-audio sox cdrkit-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cdparanoia cdrdao dvd+rw-tools growisofs k3b k3b-data k3b-i18n libflac++10 libiso9660-11t64 libk3b-data libk3b-extracodecs libk3b8
libperl4-corelibs-perl libvcdinfo0 vcdimager wodim
0 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 38.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
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paul@paul-MS-7D53:~$

Launching the app brings up a System Configuration Problems window with 1 problem:

No optical drive found.
K3b did not find any optical devices in your system.

This is true, as I don't have such in my Desktop PC.

I just acknowledge the message; click the Close button; and all is fine. The app is running; the main window is displayed (K3b - The CD and DVD Kreator -- K3b).