On Using Snap Packages?

[NoWorries]

Snap was first introduced into the ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Being now Kubuntu 24.04 LTS, ie 8 years of development, one would think that the teething bugs in snap, would have been well and truly fixed by now.

I notice on this forum that many are still not wanting to use snap packages. Therefore extra effort has to be used for installing deb packages without snap.

I used to religiously remove snap packages, but now I do not bother and use Synaptic or the command line to install. For example I now have as the snap packages; Thunderbird, Chromium and Firefox. The first two I use extensively without problems. Firefox is useful for all my Chromium bookmarks.

So I am very happy with my installed snap packages and my system is working very well.

[Schwarzer Kater]

Yeah, the annual Snap discussion!

Perhaps I will chime in tomorrow when I am at home again…

[claydoh]

It's more of a religious or political thing, mostly.
Mostly.

All are accepted here

[Schwarzer Kater]

Mostly.
And of course all opinions and preferences (and beliefs) are accepted here! To each their own.

[Montmorency]

I'll post my religious take.
Snap, Flatpak or any other container are abscesses in an otherwise balanced and elegant organism.
KISS .

[claydoh]

in an otherwise balanced and elegant organism.

<<Snerk>>
You might be surprised at some of the "hackery" used in software packaging

I found Fedora Kinoite ( Fedora KDE, mostly flatpak-focused, and a so-called "immutable" system) to be very balanced and (mostly) elegant. But I would definitely not use it on my home tinkerbox/gaming/etc PC.
On my Chromebook, I might convert it from a normal Fedora KDE to Kinoite before I travel.

KISS .

<<Double snerkity snerk>>


VS
Seemples


Of course definitions for all these can differ from person to person.
Plus I am knee-jerk contrarian and anti-fundamentalist

[jglen490]

I have no snaps, no flatpaks. I have had some appimages in the past, but not now. I do have a couple of PPAs, but nothing willy-nilly. I've lived through RPM and Yum dependency hell. The apt packaging may not be perfection, but it works. I was going to install 24.04 last weekend, but I'm looking at issues that others are having - not to avoid, but to learn and prepare. I also bought a new NVME drive (1TB), that I have partitioned and copied my /home data into as a part of that preparation.

We'll see what this weekend brings

[claydoh]

We'll see what this weekend brings

Fun and adventure!

[Beerislife]

No Snaps or Flatpaks in use here. The first thing I did after installing 24.04 was run Black Kitten's scripts to remove Snap and install
Thunderbird and Firefox from Mozilla! I could have downloaded them and installed them myself but it saved me some time!

Basically use whatever floats your boat, they're just not for me...

It's a pity I can't install anything on my own first gen Lenovo Chromebook Duet...

[claydoh]

first gen Lenovo Chromebook Duet.

omg, you most definitely can.....but it can be an adventure. Arm is a different animal, though not a night-and-day difference. Mostly a different boot process (no efi or bios or anything), and usually needing board or device-specific OS images, unless you want to manually flash individual bits (like you do when installing a ROM on a phone)

Don't forget the Linux subsystem on ChromeOS, for instralling apps like Firefox etc. in ChromeOS

I had Linux on that thing's little sister, the 10e tablet, as well as a beefy Duet 5 (a different chipset altogether)
Gimme a second.........


If I still had my 10e, I'd build you an image - it is the same platform as yours.
But I sold off the parts for the build PC that had all the build environments set up, plus the re-learning and re-modifying curve for the scripting I had hacked up to get Kubuntu or neon.

However, for playing purposes there are a couple of places to check out for images:
https://github.com/hexdump0815/imagebuilder (they make images for all sorts of Arm devices)
https://github.com/hexdump0815/image.../tag/230917-01
https://github.com/hexdump0815/image...ukui/readme.md
Your device has the codename "krane" on a "kukui" board.

This one seems ....interesting:
https://chromebook-unity.github.io/

BUTT:
Postmarket OS actually may be the best place to go, actually - prebuilt images are now available :
https://postmarketos.org/download/ <----look for Google Kukui , and there are multiple desktops available
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Category:ChromeOS <----this has good instruction for preparing the device to be able to boot from external devices/sdcards, which is needed for any alt OS install
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/G..._(google-kukui)