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    #16
    Originally posted by jlittle View Post

    As RedGreen925 has pointed out, you're still doing a BIOS install. A BIOS install to GPT is possible; oshunluvr did that for many years, and perhaps still does.

    If that really is what you want, BIOS/GPT, Kubuntu will not mind, but rather than an ESP (EFI System Partition) you need a "biosgpt" partition. And I would not be surprised if the new calamares installer does not do BIOS/GPT properly; to use calamares I imagine you'd have to

    - "Try Kubuntu"
    - start a konsole, and run sudo calamares
    - not specify an ESP (it complains but lets you proceed)
    - run grub-install manually from the konsole, specifying the boot device

    However, in 2024 I'm finding it difficult to imagine that you don't want a UEFI install. And to get that you have to boot the installer in UEFI mode.

    IIUC secure boot is not much relevant.
    I can't figure out how to do a UEFI install.
    Last edited by steve7233; May 19, 2024, 02:12 AM.
    Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Schwarzer Kater View Post

      I have tested this a few times now - at least in my tests BIOS/GPT always worked (I followed the method that the Calamares installer displayed and used Manual Partitioning), see:
      https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...822#post678822
      No flags? I thought the installer said to set the Bios-grub flag. That's what I did. Maybe that is why it won't work. Why such a small partition Don't you need more room for the NVIDIA driver and anything else you need drivers for the boot or is that installed to /?
      Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

      http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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        #18
        This is what I wrote:

        • click on Free Space --> [Create] --> enter 8 MiB in Space --> select unformatted in File System --> select bios-grub in Flags --> [OK]
        • click on Free Space --> [Create] -->​ check: Space = rest, File System = ext4, Flags = none selected --> select / in Mount Point --> enter e.g. Kubuntu in FS Label --> [OK]

        bios-grub for the 8 MiB, no flags for an exemplary ext4 "/" partition.

        NVidia drivers et al. don't reside in the 8 MiB partition for ("legacy") BIOS/GPT boot - I was not talking about UEFI with an ESP ("/boot/efi") there…
        Last edited by Schwarzer Kater; May 19, 2024, 04:22 AM. Reason: addition
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          #19
          Originally posted by Schwarzer Kater View Post
          This is what I wrote:


          bios-grub for the 8 MiB, no flags for an exemplary ext4 "/" partition.

          NVidia drivers et al. don't reside in the 8 MiB partition for ("legacy") BIOS/GPT boot - I was not talking about UEFI with an ESP ("/boot/efi") there…
          I have 3 drives the plan is Steam1 = my steam library and not reformating on a 4 TB, A separate /home on a 2 TB. A / on a 1 TB - the 8 MiB Bios-Grub. Do they all need to be GPT or just the 8 MiB? All are Sasung 860 SSDs. I will reformate the / and /home. In the future I will do a mostly clean install except for /home and Steam1 so I always have a new clean system. Also if I try other Linux via virtualization then I always have the same /home.
          Last edited by steve7233; May 19, 2024, 04:50 AM.
          Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

          http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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            #20
            So your computer's mainboard has a "legacy" BIOS?
            If SSD # 3 (1 TB) is only for "/" and you can reformat the whole drive, then you can use a GPT, the 8 MiB unformatted partition for GRUB/BIOS an the rest for "/".
            This does not effect any other drives - you will just have to integrate any other partitions you want to use from other drives one way or the other.


            PS:
            Originally posted by steve7233 View Post
            […] Also if I try other Linux via virtualization then I always have the same /home.
            ​I don't know what you are planning to do and how you are planning to do this, but this is certainly a topic for another thread…
            Last edited by Schwarzer Kater; May 19, 2024, 05:17 AM. Reason: added PS
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              #21
              A 5th attempt and another grub-install failure!
              Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

              http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                #22
                Is there any way to look up the motherboard model from Linux or do I have to open the case again? I want to go to the Asrock website to look up the MOBO manual. I know it's UEFI but apparently, it is in legacy mode currently. I need to find out how to switch it back. Maybe the installer can't install correctly. I read something about CSM but I can't find that in the Bios program.
                Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                  #23
                  sudo dmidecode --type baseboard should do.
                  If not, try a general sudo dmidecode and look through the output.
                  Last edited by Snowhog; May 19, 2024, 01:59 PM.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Schwarzer Kater View Post
                    sudo dmidecode --type baseboard should do.
                    If not, try a general sudo dmidecode and look through the output.
                    Code:
                    kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo dmidecode --type baseboard
                    # dmidecode 3.5
                    Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
                    SMBIOS 2.7 present.
                    
                    Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
                    Base Board Information
                            Manufacturer: ASRock
                            Product Name: B75M-DGS R2.0
                            Version:                      
                            Serial Number: M80-3C008700243
                            Asset Tag:                      
                            Features:
                                    Board is a hosting board
                                    Board is replaceable
                            Location In Chassis:                      
                            Chassis Handle: 0x0003
                            Type: Motherboard
                            Contained Object Handles: 0
                    
                    
                    ​
                    Thanks. I copied the part of the output that had the name of the board. Pasted onto a new browser tab. Pressed enter. and Google presented me with links to the manual.
                    Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                    http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                      #25
                      I found CSM is in the ACPI menu. Maybe now I can get it to install.
                      Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                      http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                        #26
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	Screenshot_20240519_184019.png Views:	0 Size:	29.1 KB ID:	679464 This looks better:
                        Notice it says EFI. It never said that before, I hope I finally figured it out. I'll try for the 6th time maybe it will work finally.
                        Last edited by steve7233; May 19, 2024, 06:46 PM.
                        Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                        http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                          #27
                          It took 6 tries but I finally got it to install and boot. I hope I don't forget what I did for the next version. Now I have to create a new thread for the no audio devices detected problem! https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...pon-first-boot
                          Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                          http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by steve7233 View Post
                            It took 6 tries but I finally got it to install and boot.
                            Congrats for your tenacity.
                            Regards, John Little

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