Some question before installing 20.04 this fall.

[SuperSapien64]

I have some questions before I install Kubuntu 20.04 this fall. One how often do you update the ISO files on your website to the latest kernel? Two if I chose to install updates while installing then reboot after its done installing and then the thumbdrive says remove media if any does it hurt if I remove the thumbdrive when I get remove any media message? Three when will Kubuntu 20.04.1 be out?

[claydoh]

3) 20.04.1 is due in about a week. on August 6

1) LTS Point releases are released every 6 months from the first point release. This is when the ISOs are updated. See #3

2) no

[oshunluvr]

You should know this is not a developer forum, it's a user forum. There are a couple devs who are on here occasionally, but it's not a primary place to contact developers.

To your questions;

One how often do you update the ISO files on your website to the latest kernel?

I don't know how who you're speaking to, but lets assume you mean the Kubuntu development team and the Kubuntu download site.
The answer is they don't and why would they? The ISO is to initially install from, not an active repository. You install from the ISO then run update it. You can even update while installing if you choose. I suppose a more correct answer might be: "When Ubuntu releases 20.04.1". That's when all Ubuntu "flavors" update their ISOs.

Two if I chose to install updates while installing then reboot after its done installing and then the thumbdrive says remove media if any does it hurt if I remove the thumbdrive when I get remove any media message?

I'm not totally sure I understand this question. When installing from the ISO, regardless of the type of media you have burned it to, after installation is complete it tells you to remove the media so that when it restarts, it doesn't yet again boot to the removable media. The message states "Remove installation media and press ENTER" or something to that effect. I'm unfamiliar with any message telling one to "remove any media" nor can I think of any reason why the installation would require you to do so.

Three when will Kubuntu 20.04.1 be out?

Kubuntu releases it's "point" updates along side Ubuntu, since Kubuntu is Ubuntu based, and it varies https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
Again, why does it matter? There's no need to re-install at every point release so it really doesn't matter. The point releases are just updates to the installation media. If you have installed Kubuntu 20.04 and keep it updated, it will have all the same packages as 20.04. The one and only instance this varies (and I'm only aware of it happening once, during the 14.04 update cycle) is if there is a major update to the hardware enablement stack (HWE). In that case, upgrading did not automatically include the HWE upgrade because older hardware might not have been supported by the change, so as a user you had to manually select the update for HWE, again only happened once that I recall during the 14.04 lifecycle.

It seems possible you've placed an over-importance on the value of the point releases. It's simply a way to have an orderly update cycle to installation media due to the nature of the lengthy support cycle for LTS releases, and to allow users to do a new install mid-cycle without updating a large number of packages.

Four years from now, you can take the first 20.04 ISO release, install from it, update all the packages, and you'll be using the same versions of 20.04 packages that you would have been had you simply run update regularly. There's no magic in the point releases at all.

[oshunluvr]

...LTS Point releases are released every 6 months from the first point release. This is when the ISOs are updated...

Not exactly, see the link I posted above. Last 3 LTS releases got their first point update in July, which was 3 months. Then it's about 6 months - sliding occasionally, I assume so some important pending software update could be included in the ISO update.

[claydoh]

Not exactly, see the link I posted above. Last 3 LTS releases got their first point update in July, which was 3 months. Then it's about 6 months - sliding occasionally, I assume so some important pending software update could be included in the ISO update.

Yeah, my poor wording was attempting to say this.

Point releases are released every 6 months from the first point release

The first point release, 20.04.1, is due on Aug 6, and future point releases are every ~6 months from that point.

[SuperSapien64]

OK thanks both of you. The only main reason I'm installing 20.04 is because I'm going to have my desktop upgraded to new hardware (motherboard etc) this fall. That and Kubuntu is only a three year support cycle.

[jglen490]

Yep, looking forward to 20.04.1, and then (just under) 3 more years of LTS goodness!

[mr_raider]

Yep, looking forward to 20.04.1, and then (just under) 3 more years of LTS goodness!

Don't get hung up on the three years. The underlying ubuntu repos will be open for 5 years, so you will still get updates to the core components.

Most KDE users always wan't the latest and greatest anyways, so many of us don't stay put for 3 years!

[jglen490]

That is true, but there is more to Kubuntu than only the Ubuntu repos. A three year period of some sort of stability is good enough for some of us Kubuntu users.

I try not to speak for others, but rather encourage others to use their brains and their curiosity. That will lead to amazing places, or even intractable rabbit holes

[oshunluvr]

LTS for me has meant "up to an extra year before I really need to switch..." My habit is to only run LTS as my main distro, then wait until the new LTS is 6 months old or so before getting serious about switching. I just installed KDEneon unstable and will install Kubuntu 20.04 this weekend, but I won't use either very much until they're more baked in.

I first came to Kubuntu at 9.04, upgraded each cycle until 10.10 which was a total disaster, forcing me to re-install 10.04, which I stayed with until 11.04, then 12.04. From then on I just stayed with LTS releases. KDEneon has changed the game a bit for me since I get continuously fresh released KDE components and the background Ubuntu stays LTS. It's the perfect combo for me.

[jglen490]

LTS for me has meant "up to an extra year before I really need to switch..." My habit is to only run LTS as my main distro, then wait until the new LTS is 6 months old or so before getting serious about switching. I just installed KDEneon unstable and will install Kubuntu 20.04 this weekend, but I won't use either very much until they're more baked in.

I first came to Kubuntu at 9.04, upgraded each cycle until 10.10 which was a total disaster, forcing me to re-install 10.04, which I stayed with until 11.04, then 12.04. From then on I just stayed with LTS releases. KDEneon has changed the game a bit for me since I get continuously fresh released KDE components and the background Ubuntu stays LTS. It's the perfect combo for me.

That's pretty much why I wait for the x.x.1 LTS version - bug fixes. I did try 20.04 when it first came out, and it was actually pretty nice, but a few things bothered me, so I dropped back to 18.04.4. About one more week and I'll try again ...